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Kenho21

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How do you lube your parts?
« on: June 26, 2011, 10:16:55 PM »
I have been using Mobil 1 full synthetic oil in my scoot (last time I had it running at least) and Valvoline gear oil which I'm happy with. When I was at my local dealership not long ago a parts guy there said that synthetic is overrated and can have leakage issues that I should go with regular rather than synthetic.

What kind of oils are you guys running and are you happy with them?
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 11:22:23 AM »
"How do you lube your parts?" bit personal Kenho is it not?  ;D lol

I use the same Valvoline gear oil you do and also use fully synthetic engine oil. I read that its best for small 50cc engines like ours, thats why I use it. Cant say I noticed any issues with it, but i ve only had my A50 for maybe 6months now, seems fine. I havent noticed any leakage issues and  loads of forums etc recommend regular changes with fully synthetic as the best option.

Unless I hear any different I will continue to use it on mine.
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 04:19:15 PM »
I was of the same opinion, just heard from a guy at a shop he doesn't like using it on his bikes but he was referring to sport bikes so probably a non issue when it comes to scooter...
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 05:27:58 PM »
I use the Valvoline synthetic gear oil, and Royal Purple full synthetic oil in every motor i own, never had a problem at all and there is just something about that stuff that feels like it frees an engine up  :)
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 03:01:21 AM »
Engine: OMV Classic 15W-50, mineral, changed every 500 km
Final transmission: OMV Gearbox 75W-90, synthetic, changed every 1000 km
Brake cables: standard motor oil
Central/side stand and variuos chassis and body parts: high temperature resistance grease and WD 40

I don't know if last two were in question :-)

My oppinion is that full synthetic oil is too much for this engine. I tryed both fully synthetic and semi synthetic(various brands and viscosity grades from 10W-30 to 10W-60), but mineral 15W-50 with often changes proved to be the best in my case.

And about leakage, I can't see how normal fully synth oil can cause this.
Somewhere I read something about diesel oil in GY6 50cc. The thing is that oil for diesel engines has some sort of agressive sulphor cleaning additive (for older diesel engines) that could cause leaking problem on crankshaft gasket/seal on variator side.
Don't know if this is true, but I was using oil for petrol engines and had no leaking problems.     


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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 03:24:03 AM »
Sorry, but I would like to add a few more things.

When I was doing oil changes at 1000 or 1500 km, all three types of oil(full syn, semi syn or mineral) had same colour.
Completely black no matter what type or grade I was using.
That brought me to conclusion that oil change frequency and grade is more important than oil type.
To me, it's important to use thick/heavy oil that breaks down slowly because this engines
runs very hot.

Few months ago, I was changing expensive Motul synthetic oil at 1400 km, and it had viscosity close to a water.
It lost almost all lubrication properties.

 
« Last Edit: June 28, 2011, 03:43:32 AM by woodcutter »

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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 03:53:41 AM »
"How do you lube your parts?" on the same page as "What protection do you guys use?"

nice.  ;D

I thought this was a family oriented forum  >:(

Anyway..

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Final Drive: Amsoil 80w90 Gear oil

This is what is available at my job (small engine repair shop) and I get an employee discount so I figured I might as well use it.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2011, 03:57:49 AM by Jiffycake »
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 05:36:24 PM »
"How do you lube your parts?" on the same page as "What protection do you guys use?"

nice.  ;D

I thought this was a family oriented forum  >:(

hahaha... kids don't ride kymcos :D
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Re: How do you lube your parts?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2011, 02:29:33 AM »
"How do you lube your parts?" bit personal Kenho is it not?  ;D lol

I use the same Valvoline gear oil you do and also use fully synthetic engine oil. I read that its best for small 50cc engines like ours, thats why I use it. Cant say I noticed any issues with it, but i ve only had my A50 for maybe 6months now, seems fine. I havent noticed any leakage issues and  loads of forums etc recommend regular changes with fully synthetic as the best option.

Unless I hear any different I will continue to use it on mine.






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