Tools Required

[greagle]

 
Hey,

I did a search on here about changing the oil yourself (didn't really find anything), but I want to change the oil today on my '09 scoot to save on the $100 to the shop.  I already bought the oil from the dealer.  I could not get the oil drain nut off for anything and started to strip it a little.  I had the right size socket and even used a hammer to tap it a little, but the bugger won't loosen. 

I have a generic Service manual for the scoot and it doesn't mention any special tools to do this.

Do I need to have an impact drill or something.  They are going to get my money unless I can't figure this out with your help.

I also want to change the belt and rollers soon and am shopping on http://kymcopartsonline.com, I have already used them to change out my bearings and speedo cable, but being a newbie, this stuff was really time consuming and difficult because I don't feel I have the right tools.

Is there a special tool kit I should get and when I see the word 'torque' in the manual, should I be on the letter about that or just tightened it until it's tight.

I am starting to get scared to ride it after every little thing I do because I am not sure I am doing it right.

This is a non modified scoot to the core.  I have replaced the air filter, fuel filter, spark plug, head/tail lights on my own with original parts.  I just can't get the oil drain loose and I am afraid of stripping it more. 

I also think my bearins may be bad in the rear tire, but looking at taking off the exhaust - I think I need special tools there also.

Any advice on a tool kit to get and advice on why I can't get my oil drain plug off would be very helpful.

thank you in advance.
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[Kenho21]

$100 for an oil change!?!?

Wherever that place is I would suggest travelling far and wide to avoid it!! That would probably be equivelant to paying around $200 for an oil change on a car if you ask me. Sounds like they are trying to take extreme advantage of your lack of knowledge with scooters.

No special tools required when changing out your oil though sire, my suggestion though (which I am guilty of not following in the past and did quite a number on my drain plug by the way) is to be very patient when taking the drain plug out and make sure you are twisting it counter clockwise. What helps some people is to lay on the ground to get better perspective when turning it and make sure your turning it the right way. If you have stripped it that bad a pair of vice grips may work you wonders.

But one you get the drain plug out take the oil dipstick out as well and let all the oil drain out then put your drain plug back in (which hopefully you ordered a new one by now since the old one is stripped) make sure your filter and filter spring are set up correctly. Then tighten till its pretty snug, add some oil till about halfway up the crosshatches on the dipstick start the scoot let in warm up then shut it off and check your oil level again and add oil if necessary until it reads as close to the top of the crosshatches without going over and you're all set.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!!

[streido]

Like Kenho says, no special tools req for oil change. Same for exhaust, allen key and socket wrench if i remember. Maybe the oil plug has not been off for a while? You could try some penetrating fluid to loosen it but i doubt it would soak  inside to help so maybe not. Should come lose eventually. Hopefully.

[streido]

Forgot to say,  use a ring spanner or socket for the drain plug, not an open ended spanner.That should not slip or strip the head.

[greagle]

Thanks for the replies, good to know it doesn't require special tools.  But yea, Speed City Scooters here in Indianapolis, charge me $79/hr (min. 1 hour) plus 14.99 for the oil so basically a hundred bucks.  Last oil change was about 2,000 Kms ago, hard to say though because my speedo cable broke on me a week after the change in April and I just replaced it about 2 weeks ago. 

I will probably have to use some vice grips because I have stripped it a little, but I learned the hard way I guess is not to use a cresent wrench or channel locks. 

Counter clockwise = lefty loosy, yea I am sure I was turning that way with it, but I also went the other way too when it wasn't budging.

I will give her a try on Monday my next day off, so I have a day to trouble shoot if I mess something up.
Thanks guys, will let you know how it goes.

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[sidthesloth]

I am not sure if it is this model, but I have read of this before on these forums, it seems that the original plug is very tight, (maybe threadlocked?), and a replacement plug was used. Not much help to you, but you are not alone with this.

[blue]

I am not sure if it is this model, but I have read of this before on these forums, it seems that the original plug is very tight, (maybe threadlocked?), and a replacement plug was used. Not much help to you, but you are not alone with this.

true about the threadlocked mine was caked with locktight the frist time I did mine. I used the old fashtion tire iron to get mine lose with a lot of force behide it. just to make you think they do that so you have to take it in for service.

[Kenho21]

Guess that's just another good example as to how dealerships make their money.... glad I never found that one out the hard way.

[greagle]

Well, used a breaker bar and a hammer and got it off, however, I broke the flange that houses the External O-ring.  It took me about 10 minutes to change the oil after getting off the drain nut, I can't believe they charge people (myself included) that much to change the oil.  That is just wrong, it was so simple.

Thanks again guys, now I need to surf the web and order a new drain bolt.  Oh, the way it broke allows the O ring to still seat in the right position and after tightening it up, it does leak, but not in a dangerous way.  I parked it on some cardboard and I had one droplet after about 2 hours just sitting there.  I will get the oil plug ordered asap and check oil level everyday.  I have some oil left over, so I can top it off if needed.  Just sucks though, because I basically will have figure a way to catch the new oil in a clean way so I can take old plug out and replace it and refill it, or I may just poney up and buy a new litre of oil.

Again
Thank you so much

[bmcafee]

Dude the site that you are thinking about ordering parts from is pretty overpriced. I go through monsterscooterparts.com they are much more resonable.

[greagle]

Dude the site that you are thinking about ordering parts from is pretty overpriced. I go through monsterscooterparts.com they are much more resonable.

Yea, I see I got a little robbed on my speedo cable, and I searched the site, but I didn't see the oil drain plug that I needed.  Thanks though.  Looks like this is where I will get my battery and CVT belt from though.  Thanks for looking out.

[sidthesloth]

A bit late after you have changed the oil, but you could have used a little bit of sealant on the thread just above the o-ring. Oil changer are over priced.