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2009 200S speedo cable access
« on: September 11, 2018, 08:52:22 PM »
Having trouble removing instrument cluster panel. Took out 4 screws & 2 bolts. Loose at top & sides, but still doesn't want to come away from steering column?

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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2018, 02:57:24 AM »
I did mine about 3 years ago to change the front brake fluid...I remember it being difficult...after removing the 2 bolts (and 4 screws, of course) you also need to pull out on the back(?) cover to separate it by each bolt hole...just removing the bolts doesn't mean the 2 halves will separate.

I'm probably not explaining this well...but where the bolts are the 2 halves kind of snap together and you must pull out to the sides pretty firmly to let the halves separate..good luck!
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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2018, 07:07:12 PM »
Wouldn't it be much easier to change the brake fluid by opening the bleeder at the caliper and then pumping the lever while keeping the reservoir full? Why would you need to take anything apart?
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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2018, 02:14:28 AM »
Nope, on the S200 the front brake reservoir is hidden behind the plastic covers...PITA to get at....but....I just opened up my covers to get at the reservoir and also to find out why my windshield and dash vibrate excessively on acceleration. So I have pictures!

The vibration was caused by a missing bolt...the front cover that includes the headlight is attached by 3 bolts with nuts and one of the nuts had vibrated off, allowing some movement.

The challenge with separating the rear cover (which includes the instrument cluster) from the front cover (which includes the headlights) is the area around the 2 'Frankenstein' bolts. As I so poorly described earlier in this thread...after removing the 4 screws and 2 'frankenstein' bolts you must pull out fairly hard on the front cover (around the bolt area) while also pulling out on the rear cover in order to clear the fixed metal hole where the bolt screws into.

Since there is very little space (maybe 1/4") to reach under I used a zip tool (made for separating vinyl siding courses) to slip under and pull out the front cover just to the right of the bolt hole (talking right side of bike, here). There is a plug at the center bottom of the rear cover, maybe 1 inch x 2 inches that you can pop off to allow you to stick your finger or something else in there to simultaneously pull out on the rear cover just to the left of the bolt hole. You have to pull really hard and it may help to try to separate the 2 covers up by the brakes and up at the top of the instrument panel. (this also assumes you've removed the windshield).

It's important to note that the 2 covers are not just held together by the 4 screws and 2 bolts...there are multiple tabs that click together to hold the covers together, too. They would stay solidly together without any of the screws or bolts attached. I used my zip tool to go around the perimeter of the covers gently unlocking / unsnapping the tabs.

Now, after you separate the 2 covers, you've gently pulled back on the back cover with gauges, you've removed the 3 nuts that hold the front cover, with headlights, on and pulled it forward...you realize you still can't get to the *%& %^(& reservoir! The right side front turn signal needs to be unbolted to allow the front cover to move far enough to access the brake reservoir.

pic with numbered arrows shows the right side, arrow 1 is the front cover which needs to be pulled out. Arrow 2 is the rear cover which also needs to be pulled out and back to clear arrow 3, the fixed bolt hole.

the pic with the unnumbered arrows is the left side, which shows the front cover to the left and the rear cover to the right.

finally, I included a pic that shows where the brake fluid reservoir is on this bike...total PITA to get at! Hope this info and the pics help.




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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2018, 02:24:10 AM »
OK, didn't add my 3 pics correctly the first time....this should work.
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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2018, 10:11:46 PM »
Wow! Note to self: Never own a P200.
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Re: 2009 200S speedo cable access
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 09:11:11 PM »
Lots of  scooters have the brake reservoirs under the panels.
I liked my Forza's motorcycle like handlebars, with the reservoirs accessible and brake levers easy to switch out.
A cap over those reservoirs that could be removed would be too much to hope for?
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