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People 50 Starter won't turn.
« on: May 27, 2012, 10:53:10 PM »
Hi, I have a people 50 2t .
It started and worked fine for 3 years.
One day starter wont work.
New battery to make sure . You can hear relay clicking when switch is hit.
Engine turns over very slowly one revolution then stops. Lights get very dim when trying to start.
Tried 2 other good starters and same thing, very slow to turn and major power drain.
Checked gear starter engages and its ok.
Bendix works properly.
Variator weights were flatspotted, so I changed with new ones.

Any help?
Please reply .
Thnx.

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 03:57:46 AM »
It could be your relay is dying. Try jumping the battery to starter wire with a 10awg. piece of wire. See if its working. Leave your KILL SWITCH ON!. If it still acts up try pulling the connecters apart before the battery. Maybe burnt in there. Or go straight to the battery There should be a TIGHT ground to the engine as well. Not just the frame.
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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 10:20:22 PM »
..welcome to th' forum, JPowers!!

...zombie's right on target, but give us a little info on your scoot, if you would...

..how many kilometers, any routine preventive maintenance..

..any derestrictions or mods?


« Last Edit: June 05, 2012, 02:15:16 AM by wordslinger »
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2012, 02:14:57 AM »
Hit, and run...
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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2012, 02:16:24 AM »
..seemingly...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 08:21:50 PM »
Did regular maint., Scooter has 39000 kilometers, factory speed kit(Pulley bushing and jets).
Scooter started fine for over 3 years,Battery got low. Bought new battery worked fine , then one day it stopped starting with elec. start. Kicks on first kick every time.
Hit start switch and it turns over engine one rev. and stops.Lights get very dim.Sounds like something is binding up.
Tried good used bendix and starter, no difference.Straight wired starter and same thing.
Haven't tried relay or switch replacement yet. If you hit start switch with starter un plugged you hear relay click.
Could the little bushings that go in the side cover and engine that the bendix be worn enough to cause enough play to do this?
These bushings are the only thing I haven't changed.

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 12:12:12 AM »
If the starter will not turn correctly when direct wired it HAS to be a bad starter motor. Bring it by one of those places that test it for you. If the bushing were too far worn the bendix would simply jump off the starter flywheel.
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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »
I guess I wasn't clear.
With the starter on bike and straight wired it turns engine about one rev and sounds very strained.
With starter off bike it spins freely.

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 11:05:34 PM »
Are you using a heavy gauge wire?
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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 11:31:42 PM »
A starter under no load can spin for hours at normal rpm. The load is what tells you if it's good or not.
Peters is correct. It must be at least a 10awg wire
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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2012, 08:48:16 PM »
I was using a pair of jumper cables.
Tried 3 known good strters in each way with same results.
All sound like something is binding

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Re: People 50 Starter won't turn.
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2012, 10:16:56 PM »
..make sure you still have the cvt cover's gasket...if not, the bendix might bind...

..remove the belt, reassemble and try starting it...

..if it starts without the belt, then you may have clutch issue...

factory speed kit(Pulley bushing and jets).

..how many kms after this upgrade did the problem show up?
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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