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blue

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« on: October 20, 2012, 12:21:18 AM »
weather was good tonight went to go for a night ride and my main lights did not work but my brights did but only if I hold the button in. and also my back tail lights were out but the brake lights worked what the hell. maybe just a fuse.

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Re: lights
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 07:31:43 AM »
or bad earth

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 10:53:02 AM »
It won't be a fuse since your brake lights still work, and those are on the DC circuit...

The AC circuit for headlight, tail light and "dashboard" lighting doesn't have a fuse...
(Kymco must have chosen a short-circuit proof combination of stator and wire size...)

I don't think it will be bad earth either, since the brake light and high beam work, and they share their earth circuit with the low beam and tail light...

Check for damaged wires, it's possibly a short circuit from a wire for low beam to earth (which is called ground in a system like this actually)...

Also check the connectors for both light switches at the handlebar, there might be one or two loose contacts, I've seen them come loose and stick out of the backside of a connector sometimes...


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Re: lights
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 05:19:17 PM »
Sounds like your regulator/rectifier again Blue. Where did u get the one u just put in recently? Was it 2nd hand?
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Re: lights
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 06:15:39 PM »

If Blue's dimmer switch is wired the same way as the dutch version, with the non-latching position connecting both high and low beam (he said he had to hold the button...) and the latching high beam position only connecting the high beam....

 ...a broken regulator would explain a lot indeed in that case - it could be shorting completely to ground as soon as the voltage exceeds 12V, instead of regulating it by shorting only as much as needed - that would explain why the system is only working when the stator voltage is lowered enough by the load of both high _and_ low beam...

Do the lights also work when the engine is idling at a low rpm ?

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Re: lights
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 07:47:56 PM »
the lights only work when I push the high beam switch and have to hold it when I let go the lights shot off. and the brake lights work but not the tail lights. all the blinkers work fine.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 09:42:01 PM »
the stator wire was all melted so I replaced it and hopefully this is all good now. But I better look harder to see what made this happen.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 11:25:19 PM »

The stator wiring would only melt from a short circuit, either in the stator itself, or (more probably) in the wiring (or regulator) elsewhere - and only if this short circuit continued for quite a while.... Just a pity that Kymco didn't put a fuse in the AC circuit....

Blinkers are also on the DC circuit by the way, which is separate from your head/tail lights...

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Re: lights
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 11:47:48 PM »
The stator wiring would only melt from a short circuit, either in the stator itself, or (more probably) in the wiring (or regulator) elsewhere - and only if this short circuit continued for quite a while.... Just a pity that Kymco didn't put a fuse in the AC circuit....

Blinkers are also on the DC circuit by the way, which is separate from your head/tail lights...

mmmmm Got me thinking now because the regulator I used was off a gy6 scoot not a kymco regulator.
I guess I better check in to this better. the think I dont understand is why would it do this now the regulator has been in the scoot for about 3 monthes now. What all does the regulator work with is it more then the lights.

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2012, 10:28:18 AM »

The regulator limits the AC voltage for head and tail lights and provides DC to charge the battery and feed the DC circuit (CDI/blinkers/brake light)

You could try disconnecting the regulator for a quick test... With the regulator removed, everything should just work, except that you'll slowly drain the battery and also burn the light bulbs at higher rpms, so make it a quick test and only let it idle, no driving !!  8)

If the problems stay without the regulator connected, the regulator is probably fine and you should check your wiring for damaged insulation and loose contacts...

If removing the regulator makes all lights work again, it's time to get a decent one from Kymco...  ;D

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Re: lights
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2012, 11:40:45 PM »
I beleave this happed because the wireing sits under the gas tank and When I over fill the tank gas runs down the wireing. But I guess time well tell. it might also be from the mud and dirt that flys off the back tire also.

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Re: lights
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 07:45:46 AM »

Gasoline isn't conductive, so it won't cause a short circuit - although the combination of spilled gasoline with an already existing short circuit can be very interesting...  ;D


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Re: lights
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 02:02:13 PM »
Gasoline isn't conductive, so it won't cause a short circuit - although the combination of spilled gasoline with an already existing short circuit can be very interesting...  ;D


Good to know thanks. I guess time well tell if I cant find a short.

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