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exhalent99

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Oh my gad!
« on: June 20, 2013, 01:31:49 AM »
So halfway home from a 20KM commute I start to feel a crunchy sensation coming from the rear of the bike.  It was evident when I went over bumps at slow speed.  When I got home I looked around at the back of the bike and this is what I saw:

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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 01:33:18 AM »
The shocks are supposed to look like the one on the right:
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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 02:01:04 AM »
Can't figure out what happened... Did the shock break?

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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 02:20:37 AM »
So the damping rod had fallen down into the hydrolic chamber.  I know this because I have zero patience and took the bike apart.  Before doing the repair the only idea I had about the shock was from the service manual schematic.



In hindsight I should have taken more pics or filmed what I was doing, so sorry I didn't!  I was too focused on fixing the shock right away. 

The access wasn't as hard as I thought.  Just have to remove the thin side panels (the same one to remove to access the air filter) on both sides.  Then the battery cover and the front panel (in front of the valve cover). Then the seat, trunk, and trunk support, and the rack (allen key). 

On the inside under the seat there's only 2 hex screws, one on each side, holding the plastic onto the frame.  The hardest part is the plastic tabs holding the plastic body to the floorboard.  The whole rear section of plastic lifts off as one piece.  There are a few wire connections like the seat key cable, so I didnt lift it off far, just enough to move to the side and rest on the frame so I had access to the top of the rear left shock. 

The thin metal rod that runs to the top of the shock is actually supposed to be threaded into the top.  Mine had came undone.  The shock itself was easy to remove from the frame, just two big hex bolts.  So now I have the shock in three pieces.  The top which the rod screws into, the spring, and the bottom which has the adjuster and the cylinder and the rod. 

This was not an easy fix and extremely dangerous to do without a spring compressor.  My uncle was with me and acted as the compressor.  First with the shock apart, I pulled the rod out as far as it would come.  There is a nut on the thread at the top of the rod.  I tightened it to expose as much thread as possible.  We secured the bottom on top of a brick with a no slip pad.  He crouched over it with the spring, and used his bare hands to compress it.  As soon as I saw the thread from the rod come over top of the spring I screwed the top piece on.

To tighten the top piece onto the rod I had to hold the rod somehow as it rotates freely.  I didnt want to scratch the rod (we already scratched up the spring trying various vice grips to compress it from opposite sides, this is where it was dangerous).  I used a shoelace, threaded through the spring, wrapped around the rod.  Tied each end of the lace around a pen and tightened the lace around the rod by turning the pen repeatedly.  It worked well to hold the rod while I tightened the top, getting two and a half rotations of thread.  I then worked the nut back up the thread to the top of the rod.
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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 02:34:20 AM »
The whole thing took 3 hours.  I see now where some work is worth $60/hr. 

The shock is working like new and happy to report that I didn't notice any damage anywhere.  The right shock must have compensated for at least 15 minutes, so I hate to think of how it may be affected.  I changed the shock adjusters, both to the softest setting.  It actually feels pretty awesome, have never tried that setting.

That being said, I've decided to start shopping aftermarket for some shocks...

Here's a pic of it after the repair, spring all scratched up.
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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 02:41:56 AM »
Great! This is new information!  Thanks for sharing!


Happy shopping!  here's one great shock..


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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 02:57:37 AM »
Thanks Vivo,

do you have experience with that shock, does it fit the Like without too much fuss?
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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 03:07:37 AM »
Thanks Vivo,

do you have experience with that shock, does it fit the Like without too much fuss?

That will be my next purchase, I hope... I don't know if it will fit the Like tho...

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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 05:51:28 PM »
Glad you were able to fix it without too much fuss. Is your like still under warranty? Or is getting it to a shop too much hassle, only reason I ask is that might be a good way to get a new shock. Thanks for the info on removing the rear cowl panels. The only thing that's a PITA about the Like is the puzzle box like manner some of the body panels are assembled. After working on my girlfriends Buddy I got super jealous how easy it was to get to some of the inner workings of her scoot as compared to the Like.

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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 06:33:40 PM »
The bike is brand new so I know I could have taken it to the dealer.  I just like to do things on my own and even one day without the bike is unacceptable. Im fairly confident in my abilities most of the time anyway. I will be stopping by the dealer to show the mechanic what happened and how I fixed it. Maybe they will start using a thread fastener...

Im also gonna talk to a parts person to see if I can get a recommondation for new aftermarket performance shocks and exhaust.
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Re: Oh my gad!
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2013, 09:37:28 PM »
Not much available in the US. Parts guys won't find much. I found these generic ones
that might work (you just need to pick the right mounts and length);
http://www.newmotorcycleparts.com/chassis/suspension_parts/rear_shocks.html
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