Variator roller weights chart & tool

[Stig / Major Tom]

Soon I should probably pop the belt cover just to get it over with. Seems it is stuck pretty good the first time it comes off.....and take a look at things in there. 4400 miles and going riding tomorrow.
I have a set of Dr Pulley sliders and stock Kymco rollers, belt, belt cover gasket and air filter if things look worn in there.
Still trying to locate a multi-fit tool to hold things in place while I break loose the variator bolts. Found many home-made holding tools but have not found the purpose made tool used by real mechanics as seen in all the manuals and videos.
Anybody found a source for this tool at a reasonable price?
Stig
Ride safe folks!

[de dee]

  you can make your own tool , 1 inch bar about 14 inches long ,and 1 inch bar 5 inches i bolt to attach the two bars together, and two bolts the right size that fits in the variator,. ,.  the bars will look like a sling shot,. it took me about 20 min.s to make mine,. I made the long handle long enough to touch the ground ,so it is easy to apply torque to the nuts,.

[TroutBum]

  you can make your own tool , 1 inch bar about 14 inches long ,and 1 inch bar 5 inches i bolt to attach the two bars together, and two bolts the right size that fits in the variator,. ,.  the bars will look like a sling shot,. it took me about 20 min.s to make mine,. I made the long handle long enough to touch the ground ,so it is easy to apply torque to the nuts,.

I am looking to buy one, but I like your idea of making one. Excellent suggestion, thank you for that de dee!

[Stig / Major Tom]

Thanks dedee
But still looking for a place to buy this variator tool. It couldn't be too expensive?
Stig

[de dee]

  I seen one in princess auto, it,s for holding the cam in cars , the pins are to large but can be filed down, to fit the variater, it looks just like the one I made it listed at $14.95,. in the usa id look in harbor freight, or in any auto supply ,.   best of luck and ride safe

[91cavgt]

I just use a Dewalt nut driver and it removes the nut with no problems.  However, I have been working as an auto mechanic for a few years so it is easier for me to use it and not strip things out than people that are not familiar with how to use a nut driver. 

[TroutBum]

Stig,

I found this for less than $20. It says it works on Kymco 4 strokes. http://www.racingplanetusa.com/variator-holder-blocking-tool-kymco-50cc-4stroke-p-6650-1.html

[Abner_Bjorn]

$1.50 in hardware, a scrap piece of plywood and 10 minutes.  Works on most SYMs, Kymcos and Yamahas:

[Stig / Major Tom]

Well, did another search in Bing for variator tool, and by switching to an image search I came up with a bunch.
Ebay has one for $13 and better looking ones can be had for $38 by the Bing image search.
Thanks for the ideas for a DIY variator tool.....there certainly are a lot of ideas and examples out there !
Will pick up a couple of nuts before going into the CVT belt cover - to replace the old one coming off. Only a buck for this important nut.
I can't shoot videos, but might take some photos of a LIKE roller change and belt inspection.
Stig

[245luigi]

I pop the variator off by pulling the plug and putting some rope in there (use a strong synthetic rope that doesnt leave fibers) and impacting the vari nut off. No tool needed (save the spark plug socket!). Im not sure how the plug is set up for the like 200 but it works well on the like 50 2t and i imagine other 2t's.

[de dee]

  I use my 18 volt impac gun to remove nuts drive screws and it seems to have the right torque for the variator nut and clutch nut,. and you dont have to hold the variator,. and I use a small . battery drill to remove all the bolts for the cover,. when your old you do it the easy way,.

[Abner_Bjorn]

All this talk about variators has me wondering.   Can you please tell me the stock size and weight of the rollers?  Thank you!

[Stig / Major Tom]

All this talk about variators has me wondering.   Can you please tell me the stock size and weight of the rollers?  Thank you!

18x14x13.5g.....but I have seen them listed as 14g and 13g  on different sites.
Chart from: http://www.beedspeed.com/html-pages/variator-roller-weights-chart.htm
I have no idea who/what beedspeed is. Anyone ??
I could not find any 13.5 Dr Pulleys, so the first batch I bought & will try are the 13g ones.
Stig

[Dolemite]

These are the one's I installed in my Like a few months back. Top speed is about the same, take off and mid range is noticeably improved with the sliders installed, and MUCH smoother.
I did purchase a new belt but didn't install it because my original still had plenty of life left despite the amount of dust in the cvt. I will say that after 10,000 miles it seems my top end isn't what it was at say 2-3,000. Could that be due to the width of the belt not being as wide as it was when new? Therefore not pushing my front variator far enough apart?

Anywho, as for removing the nuts, it was super simple using an electric impact wrench.

[Stig / Major Tom]

These are the one's I installed in my Like a few months back. Top speed is about the same, take off and mid range is noticeably improved with the sliders installed, and MUCH smoother.
I did purchase a new belt but didn't install it because my original still had plenty of life left despite the amount of dust in the cvt. I will say that after 10,000 miles it seems my top end isn't what it was at say 2-3,000. Could that be due to the width of the belt not being as wide as it was when new? Therefore not pushing my front variator far enough apart?

Anywho, as for removing the nuts, it was super simple using an electric impact wrench.

Thanks!
Your report is much appreciated.
I read that the belt is scheduled to be changed at 6200 miles (10,000KM) so sometime this spring I should be around there. Then I could put in the Dr Pulleys - but the problem would then be - how is it now riding? Was it the new belt or the new sliders?
The new belt is @$45, so, since the scoot doesn't seem to need other than oil changes -- that does not seem too expensive for 18 mos of my riding. The iridium plug is good for life, the Michelins should go maybe 2 years. Brake shoes and shocks --- who knows? I like that the Kymco parts for the LIKE are not expensive AND are easy to get, mail-order. (compared to the SYM)
What we need is a report from somebody who has 10,000 miles on their LIKE.
What's going to wear out, and when.
I think I'll ask that in a post.
Thanks again - i keep hearing that these Dr Pulleys will give a smoother take off. That will be nice!
Stig