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Terrynten

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Hey , wtf
« on: July 22, 2014, 07:27:35 PM »
  :-\ Good n bad... The good , was only 35 ft from the garage. The bad, the 250 just stopped running. There was no sign of life at all as far as dash lights or headlight , no power at all. Checked fuses ,all good . The battery looks good. Hmmm, I'm grounded.... Big T

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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 02:22:06 AM »
I've had this scooter for around 4 years and its been a great machine so wow when it suddenly quit on me I was really surprised . A close buddy has a People 150 cc and for 10 years or better it has had no problems. I can't help but my scooters problem is a simple one. I was hoping someone has experienced the same issue.

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Re: Hey, WTH
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 03:23:16 AM »
If you have no power, I would be leaning towards a battery ground/positive wire that came loose if it is not your main fuse. Not sure where to start, get the schematic and figure out whether to go out from the battery or from the ignition back to the battery to see where the power starts or stops.
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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 02:03:23 PM »
My ( now my husbands )2009 People  S 250 was doing something similar ( erratically ) for two seasons. Dealer , finally, figured out an issue w/left (rear) brake . It was acting like a kill switch , so sometimes would die when applying brake or not start when applying brake (like one is supposed to do ) on start up .
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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 09:09:37 PM »
Thanks for the input , that sends me in a direction. I'll post my results as soon as I know them.

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Re: Hey, WTH
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2014, 03:22:52 AM »
Please do.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 07:51:02 PM »
So, I finally got a chance to look closer at the problem of no apparent electrical power when turning on the key. I had at first looked for a fuse issue. Opened the "met in " compartment, removed the battery cover and just to side there were three fuses. Well that's makes it easy to check for a problem with those. One at a time I pulled them out and found no problem there . So removed the 'met in" (where did it get that name?) box exposing the motor and all. Pretty dam dusty in there , I do live in New Mexico and that kinda stands to reason. Anyway , saw a few electrical connecters visible and looked to make sure they were all in tight. Looking at the three fuses again , since they were now just a little more open to inspection, the 30amp one looked as if it were down into its seat deeper then the other two. Hmmm, maybe the part it plugs in to dropped to low for it to be still plugged in.....I pulled it out again , took my handy , very bright, led headlamp and put on my 275 reading glasses and had a look down in there. There was no plug in mechanism at all !
These were the spares for the fuses , where ever they were. They weren't far. Right next to the three was a small rectangular shaped box with what looked like a openable to. Cool , a bank of fuses . Wiped of the dust and the first one in the line up was a 30 amp. Got a pair on needle nose and extracted it and there was a burned fuse. Had a spare and everything. put it in and , this is great , back in business.
  This was a good chance to vac out the dusty engine compartment and what the heck check the air cleaner while I'm at it. It was terrible shape too. 
 So , here I was about to take'er into the shop but save myself a whole lotta  grief there. Terry

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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 05:44:29 AM »
So it was the Main Fuse, thanks for the update.
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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 03:45:43 PM »
But why did the fuse blow?

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2014, 11:52:46 AM »
As to why the fuse may have failed, I remember putting the side stand down which kills the motor.
That may have caused the problem for some reason. Think I try to turn off the key before using the side stand as a precaution.
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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2014, 08:41:26 PM »
Nah, something else. Sidestand interrupts power to ignition, just like turning the key off, so engine won't start/run with sidestand down. Gotta be some "thin spot" in the wiring that is grounding out and popping the fuse. No doubt the fuse will blow again.

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Re: Hey , wtf
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 04:11:04 AM »
What Karl said, I use my kick stand many times to cut engine before I turn off the key.
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