Checking for smooth boss

[Chris0381]

Hello

I have just purchased a 2013 Kymco Super 8 50cc 2T here in Connecticut. I asked the salesman if the scooter came with the smooth boss and 82 jet which he knew nothing about but said they de-restrict the scooter before sales. They delivered the bike and said it was derestricted. After they left, I notice the 82 jet was in a plastic bag and not on the bike so I put it on myself. Unfortunately there was no sign of a Boss shouldered or smooth and don't know if they put on a smooth boss like they said.

I want to check to see if the smooth boss is on. Do I have to rent an impact wrench to take off the pulley to check for a shouldered or smooth boss, or can I just take off the cover and see what boss is on. I have no confidence in the dealership and wont be contacting them again unless I crucially need to.

The scooter does 36 MPH on the flats, I'd be more satisfied with 40MPH at some point.

Thanks

Chris

[245luigi]

You can pop off the cover and see if the variator faces have the ability to come together. Then you will know if you have the smooth or shouldered boss.

With 36mph sounds like its derestricted ie smooth boss in.

[Chris0381]

Thanks

Thats good to know I'l lget that cover off soon. Luigi

[zombie]

You have to squeeze the drive belt all the way down to the center of the rear pulley to verify that way. It's pretty tough to do.

Two things that stand out here... It is illegal for the dealer to deliver the bike de-restricted. You can pay them do do this after delivery but not when he hands you the keys. Grey area I know... but fact.

When you swap the jet you also have to pull the rubber re-stricter that is in the intake of the air box. It is attached to the box directly behind the rubber tube intake, and pulls straight out toward you.

Bring it back in, and ask him to verify the boss for you. Explain it just as you did here.

[Chris0381]

TY Zombie

I'm 30 miles away from the dealer, I dont want to spend $200 on a van rental right now to get the bike in.

I didn't realize that a tube or anything had to come off when using the #82 jet, but I'll take it off as its easy to do.

I think 35 MPH on the flats is par for a Super 8 with just the jet and boss derestriction if I'm reading thru the forums and interpreting correctly.

Here in Connecticut we only have a 5HP and 49 cc limit; on our DMV, site there is nothing that restricts the speed of Mopeds/scooters.

I think I would be satisfied if I can get 40 MPH out of the is bike. I'm at 135 miles on the odometer so far after 3 days of having it.

Buts its time for other mods and to buy a 12 v impact wrench as it good for quick roadside tire changes too. I just need to get a torque wrench also.

[zombie]

CT. has always had some unusual DMV laws. Their trailer laws for homebuilt were insane 15 years ago.
Do you need a drivers Lisc or motorcycle endorsement for 49cc?

The reason I ask is Fl. has a 49cc and 35mph law but no limit on hp. You also MUST have a Drivers Lisc. but no MC endorsement.
Dealers here are bonded/ DOT registered/ state licensed, and if they de-restrict pre-delivery they can lose the bond, and state dealers Lisc.

Sounds like you have all the rest under control. Hang around, and you will be in the 50MPH club in no time.

[Chris0381]

Yes Zombie we do need licenses her for 49cc.

I am planning another mod soon and I have about $200 to budget that.

I am now trying too see if scooters are allowed on the bike path that goes over the Baldwin Bridge that crosses the Connecticut River.

Update

I just called the state police Troop F and we can ride over the bridges as long as we stay on the bike path. The thing that worried me was the bike paths over the bridges are like sidewalks and you can't ride on sidewalks.

I may be wrong on the HP statement. I'm seeing 2 HP here on the official site and not 5 HP as I quoted.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=810&q=430480

Its very important not to take non-official websites literally as they sometimes have inaccurate info.

This non official site says 5HP

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/other-types.php

But this document on the official site also says 5 HP so its really confusing.

http://www.ct.gov/dmv/lib/dmv/20/29/cycman.pdf

If I have an issue such as an accident and fault needs to be determined and I exceed these limits, I could be held at fault and furthermore my insurance would suddenly be invalidated. I do work for the state seasonally and its quite common to confiscate vehicles and examine them for compliance after accidents. I just emailed the CT DMV and hope to get a response in 4 days or so.

[NeoGenesisMax]

Ok I thought I knew every part of a scooter by now. Guess I was wrong. I owned a 2t for over a year and spent the whole time looking for performance parts. Never did the word "Boss" come up. Yet you folks all seem to know what it is without a description. I honestly can't even make a good guess. Does it boss your scooter around? Does it do less work than the rest of the scooter but get paid more? If sombody said point to your scooter boss I'd point at myself. My auto tech class in college and job as an auto tech hasn't taught me this yet either.

[245luigi]

This boss is the scooter boss' boss. No matter what you do, it never lets you have any fun!

[Chris0381]

Genesis, think of a boss as a thick long washer. Instead of .20 think its and inch or 2 thick cylinder with a whole going thru it. It could also be called a type of spacer.

[de dee]

  a boss is the thing that the pulley variator slides in and out on, to change gear ratio  don  I ride a 300i downtown