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Final Drive Oil
« on: November 08, 2014, 02:48:32 PM »
I have  a 2013 Gti 300, and a Cyclopedia service manual.  It gives detailed instructions on replacing the final drive oil, but doesn't show how to check the level during regular maintenance.  Please help!

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 06:37:19 PM »
There is really no way to check it. It's a change and cap it sorta method. Unlike Piaggio that included dip dipstick for the final drive. But it takes all of about 5 minutes to change.
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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 07:14:52 AM »
You check the level through the fill hole.   

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 05:03:38 PM »
I learned the hard way on an Agility 50 that the fill hole IS NOT a gauge for checking level of gear oil. The correct amount surface is so far below the hole as to be impossible to check for the right amount. It is like B&L said, it is a "fill and cap" method. Drain out what ever is in there, put the right amount back in and "cap" it.

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 05:24:01 PM »
 yeah the owners manual is wrong when it says you can check this method. You'll end up with oil in your filter and in the tire.
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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2014, 08:24:29 PM »
Put the correct amount in and forget about it until the next drain time. Check for leaks and seeing or feeling none, just leave it alone. Good quality final drive fluid never wears out nor looses it's lubricity.

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 10:11:45 PM »
yeah the owners manual is wrong when it says you can check this method. You'll end up with oil in your filter and in the tire.

Is that true for all Kymco scooters?  My Kymco's service manual and owner's manual for the People 250 says to check the level at the hole.  That's how my Honda Elites worked too.  Seems like a more trustworthy method than the "if there's no leaks, it's probably ok" method.  :-\
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 10:13:34 PM by MooseMax »
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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 01:22:15 AM »
You can try and gauge the level that way but there's no point in struggling with a flashlight and see the level, or take two minutes and replace with fresh. If your not leaking fluid, there's nowhere for it to go. You can't burn gear oil. Not to mention on all of the kymco engines if the gear oil is at the fill home, it's over full.
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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 02:57:05 AM »
Most every gear case made utilizes a fill/weep hole system to know when the oil level is correct.
Kymco is the ONLY brand I have come across that uses a different method. I couldn't even venture a guess as to why.

Just to be stubborn, and do things MY way... I fill it to the weep hole, and then tip the bike to 45* port. that way the excess spills out, and I don't have to deal w/ measuring / injecting gear oil.
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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2014, 06:23:48 AM »
After over 57000 miles on the xciting, i aint changed it yet. Should i?

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2014, 05:01:36 PM »
Htcneil, YES!

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Re: Final Drive Oil
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2014, 11:45:38 PM »
Yes! Noty that the gear lube is bad by now (lasts for ever) but to get out all the micro/not so micro particles from gear wear. They will eventually clog up the bearings, and make for larger issues.

Napa 75-90 synthetic is what I use.
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