Author Topic: Shredded Belt  (Read 4623 times)

windwheeler

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
    • View Profile
    • WindStrom windshields
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2013, 11:00:56 PM »
The squeek can actually be the belt, not essentially the clutch.  I had that before exactly, also on a 2005 G/V at 10,000 miles...  Changed belt and roller weights and all worked OK after that and the squeek was gone.

mrbios

  • 2005 Kymco Grandvista 250cc
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
  • Just crusing along on my 2005 GV250
    • View Profile
    • My YouTube Channel
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2013, 09:43:12 PM »
10,000 miles...I'd recommend new belt, rollers and the three sliders.  ....

Thanks, I just downloaded the manual and I'll order the sliders and stuff.  Although, the scoot runs good I have noticed a rattle that started about 2K mi ago.  It sounds like something in the exhaust like a loose screw but I can't locate it.  Although it runs well it sounds a little ragged.

Also, I have the rear shocks on the softest setting but the scoot is still harsh over bumps.  Is there any after-market fork springs or rear shocks available?  I installed progressive springs and lighter fork oil on my old bmw k75 and it made a world of difference.

Thanks for the info and I will post pics and results when I finish.

Paul
PaulC

Doug9678

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 44
    • View Profile
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2013, 03:41:09 AM »
I lost the bolt that is below the exhaust , it caused a bad rattle when missing - check that
2009 GrandVista 249cc
Amsoil 10w-40
Iridium Plug

windwheeler

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
    • View Profile
    • WindStrom windshields
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2013, 03:58:08 AM »
Paul,  I think you are out of luck with the shocks/springs.  There are Kymco upgrades available with gas cartridge shocks, but I doubt it will make the ride "softer".  I think they are on the Kymco Site under Accessories, and about $300 the pair...  Since I don't have them I can't say more how they work.  Also, don't forget the G/V is a light weight bike compared to your K75, so it will give up on ride comfort.  FYI: I just rented a Daelim S300 scooter in Europe for a few days, newest model, and it rode not much better than the G/V.  So, I think ride comfort is weight and specific suspension design related.  The G/V is not great in that department.

Changing rollers and belt:  Make sure you have an impact wrench handy with (I think) a 17mm nut.  I had just thick leather gloves and held the Pulley and the impact wrench opened the nut up.  I also tightened the nut with the impact wrench and put a "serviceable Loctite" in the thread/nut.  100% correct is of course according to torque specs, but then you need a special tool to hold the pulley to do the specs. It worked for me on three G/V's that I serviced for myself and friends  Just watch the nut when it stops moving. You don't want to have the pulley assembly come loose so use the blue Loctite or equivalent.

Make sure you hold the assembly from the back with your fingers before pulling it off or all the weights fall wild out, which is not really a big problem because you replace them anyway.  There is also a specific way how the weights are going in; it is on the description.  Has something to do how the rubber rollers are pressed on and turning direction.  Just as precautions.

As to the rattle it may be the exhaust (check also if all heat shield bolts are still on it; the get notoriously lost), or it can be the slap of the belt on the bottom if stretched.

mrbios

  • 2005 Kymco Grandvista 250cc
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
  • Just crusing along on my 2005 GV250
    • View Profile
    • My YouTube Channel
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2013, 06:33:29 AM »
10,000 miles...I'd recommend new belt, rollers and the three sliders.  Although wear is a factor, I think the age and drying of the rubber is more of a factor.   Last check of Stadium indicated "Call for Price" on the rollers and sliders.  Another indication is quantity of Rubber dust when you take off the cover.

I replaced to belt today.  Old belt looked good - no cracks, width seemed about the same - I will measure it with my digital calipers and compare to the manual.  My rollers have very slight flat spots.  I will order and replace them. 

What are the three sliders?  I saw three rubber things on the cover that goes over the sliders.  The rattle that I hear sounds the like the same noise that I hear when I ride - esp at low speed coasting by parked cars where it echoes. 
PaulC

windwheeler

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
    • View Profile
    • WindStrom windshields
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2013, 01:31:51 PM »
I replaced to belt today.  Old belt looked good - no cracks, width seemed about the same - I will measure it with my digital calipers and compare to the manual.  My rollers have very slight flat spots.  I will order and replace them. 

What are the three sliders?  I saw three rubber things on the cover that goes over the sliders.  The rattle that I hear sounds the like the same noise that I hear when I ride - esp at low speed coasting by parked cars where it echoes. 

Describe the  "three rubber things" better what you mean.  All I can think of the little wedges (don't know what they are called) that prevent the friction between the inner and outer basket.

As to your rattle, can you not duplicate it on the center stand?

richard1958

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
    • View Profile
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 07:36:42 PM »
Being a newbie I thought it best to tag along on this subject.  I wanted to inspect my belt or at least see it before it gets shredded someday.  As usual I'm stumped by the plastic that I have to get through to be able to remove the belt cover.  It seems I need to remove the lower left side cover but after removing the bolts it is still being held my something.  My question is what do I have to do to remove this cover?  It seems that I do need to remove it in order to be able to remove the belt cover and the ventilation attached to it.  Thanks in advance.

Urbestfriend

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 430
    • View Profile
Re: Shredded Belt
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2013, 05:24:10 PM »
There is a rubber gasket around the circumference of the belt cover.  Sometimes it takes a set making it harder to pull off.
Check a parts diagram thru available from several parts vendors like Stadium Yamaha/Kymco on the Internet.

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function split()