Author Topic: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny  (Read 2992 times)

agoncalvesjr89

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • View Profile
2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« on: December 11, 2015, 05:56:40 PM »
hi all. I have a 2013 super 8 50 2t. upjetted to 83 and drive boss swapped, the bike does 35-38 mps flats. from 0-15mph its fast with the powerband, at 15 mph its like the engine bogs down and falls off - slowly accelerating again up to 37mph on flats. Stock everything other than drive boss and 83 jet.  EVerytime at 15 mph weather im approaching it fast in the power band or creeping up it falls off and slows down. DO we think this is a carb problem or transmission. it standard 16 mm carb has a non adjustable needle. Should i replace the variator and spring with lighter weights, or carb.   ... Guaranteed at 15 mph the powerband ends and so does the pulling. The stock kymco 2t exhaust from 2013 as we all know is a joke. Im sure with a tecnigas type r it will raise the performance of all around driving.... but this 15mph dead zone, what is it!!!! Anyone please
2013 SUPER8 2T 50
70cc MALOSSI KIT
STOCK CARB MAIN JET AT 98 , STOCK AIR BOX SNORKEL REMOVED.
NARAKU VARIATOR 6 GRAMS SLIDER / ROLLER COMB.
TECNIGAS NEXT R EXHAUST
SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN STOCK GATES DRIVE BELT.
TOP SPEED 50ISH , TONS OF POWER. 45MPH CRUISING

CROSSBOLT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • West Tennessee, USA
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2015, 06:24:59 PM »
Could be a resonance "flat spot" in the exhaust.

Karl
Karl

Three motorcycles 1960-1977 (restored a 1955 BSA)
Agility 50
Yager 200i
Downtown 300i
Navy tech, Ships Engineer, pilot and aircraft mechanic

agoncalvesjr89

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2015, 07:00:35 PM »
Maybe, im going to first grab a new exhaust. It has no real issues other than topspeed at 37 which with the stock exhaust is expected. just wondering if now ill have a more aggressive powerband and top end with the same dead zone at 15... its like the rpm's everything dies at 15mph , if going up a hill forget regaining momentum. I have to hit the hill starting about 15
2013 SUPER8 2T 50
70cc MALOSSI KIT
STOCK CARB MAIN JET AT 98 , STOCK AIR BOX SNORKEL REMOVED.
NARAKU VARIATOR 6 GRAMS SLIDER / ROLLER COMB.
TECNIGAS NEXT R EXHAUST
SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN STOCK GATES DRIVE BELT.
TOP SPEED 50ISH , TONS OF POWER. 45MPH CRUISING

aaron8

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 04:04:02 PM »
how many Kilometers are on the bike? I would pull the cvt cover off and check your rollers for wear

paceneedsstides

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 653
  • Cuz I can't drive...55!!...No I mean that I try...
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2016, 04:00:58 AM »
On my 2013 Like 50 the Tecnigas NextR was my first upgrade other than derestricting and it had same issues as you before but after not only did overall acceleration step up butfrom 25 or 27mph it took off like a rocket to over 40.
2013 Kymco/Malossi Like 70 2T
Technigas Next R Chrome exhaust
Malossi Dellorto 19mm Carb
94 main jet
Malossi Multivar
Dr Pulley 6gr Sliders
Malossi Blue Rear Pulley Spring
Malossi Torsion controller
Stage 6 Sport Pro Clutch
Stage 6 upgear kit
Malossi PHBG Open Racing Filter Chrome Covered

murganhjga

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 05:20:14 AM »
I have the same scooter, but with upgraded exhaust, and I still have that exact same issue, so may not be the exhaust
Looks like it's a Next R too

« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 05:37:52 AM by murganhjga »
Kymco Super 8 50cc 2 stroke - 2013 - 5000km

mclark999

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 276
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 09:22:00 PM »
Could be that as it hits the steeper slope on the torque converter, the gearing is too high. Lighter roller weights would help if that was the cause by raising your rpms. On my People, it bogs just a little when it hits the curve.

See the curve in the driver on the right? That's what the Kymco looks like. When the scooter hits that curve it raises the gear ratio pretty fast. kind of like hitting 2nd gear. 



Check out this video on youtube

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 09:36:31 PM by mclark999 »
Denver, Colorado, USA 5,300 Feet Elevation

2007 Kymco People 50 2T
Tecnigas Trek exhaust
OEM variator with 6 gram rollers
OEM 16mm carburetor

agoncalvesjr89

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • View Profile
Re: 2013 super 8 50 2t QUESTION about tranny
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2016, 05:11:11 PM »
Update everyone.

My bike already had smooth boss. Put in new variator naraku standard variator NoN Sport. Put in 7.5 rollers.  Put in green +60 % torque spring.  All this smoothed my whole tranny out. While i had it apart i lubed EVERYTHING up. I believe this also helped a ton. Finally i put on a NARAKU traffic 2t exhaust, after removing the restrictor in the down pipe. (Which wasnt too easy on this pipe). ......... Results are awesome.    44mph top speed, can easily get their and cruise their.  The pulling power and acceleration is very fast. Peppy like a 2 stroke dirtbike. Its like a complete different bike.  smooth hard pulling power all the way to 40mph +. It wanted to wheelie. I have nothing but an 80 jet in their, just big enough. Stock air box. The exhaust and new rollers were crucial.  If i get bigger main jet and go 8 gram rollers i no i can push past 43,,
But this set up is still fast and having this light tranny gives me really goooood acceleration.   THE EXHAUST IS A MUUUUSTTT
2013 SUPER8 2T 50
70cc MALOSSI KIT
STOCK CARB MAIN JET AT 98 , STOCK AIR BOX SNORKEL REMOVED.
NARAKU VARIATOR 6 GRAMS SLIDER / ROLLER COMB.
TECNIGAS NEXT R EXHAUST
SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN STOCK GATES DRIVE BELT.
TOP SPEED 50ISH , TONS OF POWER. 45MPH CRUISING

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function split()