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Re: Tires
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 09:44:03 PM »
Car tire not a trailer tire and works well even in corners. This is my 4th bike with a c/T, 3 scooters and a Goldwing. Slow speed maneuvering is good in parking lots, don't notice any difference in cornering and high speeds at 100 mph is excellent. The ride is smoother too. Generally don't quickly deflate like a m/t and can ride on it to get off the road because of the stiffer side walls. This is my mine reason after my m/t blew recently on my SW. Not really a money saving motivation for me getting 30k on the rear tire as much as feeling safer on a c/t. Not a negative thing to say about it for me and the many thousands that have gone to the darkside sing it's praises too. There are other motorcycle forums where the darkside is discussed in great depth and some video is available to show the contact patch of a motorcycle tire vs a c/t. I've done my homework on it and feel comfortable and safe with my choice. Bear in mind though this is a volitile subject on some bike forums as it's not for everyone and some bikes may behave differently with a c/t.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2016, 06:29:23 PM »
the stiffer side walls.

are you running a run-flat ?

my darkside experience on my V-strom is that the car tire sidewall is nowhere near as stiff as the sidewalls of MC tires in V-strom size
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Re: Tires
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 08:44:58 PM »
My question would be simply this one:
Can a car tire be used legally on a motorbike? I strongly doubt that.
What about insurance coverage in case of an accident?

At least overhere in Europe this would be a clear no go and is forbidden.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 09:14:56 PM »
My question would be simply this one:
Can a car tire be used legally on a motorbike? I strongly doubt that.
What about insurance coverage in case of an accident?

At least overhere in Europe this would be a clear no go and is forbidden.

I have passed every inspection here in Texas on 4  of my bikes that had c/t installed.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2016, 12:22:11 AM »
are you running a run-flat ?

When available for the size required.

my darkside experience on my V-strom is that the car tire sidewall is nowhere near as stiff as the sidewalls of MC tires in V-strom size
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Re: Tires
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2016, 12:53:24 AM »
Busted my butt second time on first bike with a badly worn rear tire in a wet corner. Tire worn square - - like a car tire. The main issue then was learn when to replace tires on two-wheeled vehicles. The connection between then and now is the contact patch gets real small in a corner with a squarish cross-section. Just sayin'...be careful.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2016, 03:58:37 AM »
Busted my butt second time on first bike with a badly worn rear tire in a wet corner. Tire worn square - - like a car tire. The main issue then was learn when to replace tires on two-wheeled vehicles. The connection between then and now is the contact patch gets real small in a corner with a squarish cross-section. Just sayin'...be careful.

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Thanks Karl and others for your concerns regarding my use of c/t on my bikes. I consider all points of view valid as it is part of how I make decisions regarding rider safety. I'm not necessarily an advocate for the darkside as I seldom speak to this with others . If in my query regarding the darkside I learn that this is unsafe I will abandon using them.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2016, 08:55:54 AM »
I have passed every inspection here in Texas on 4  of my bikes that had c/t installed.

That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...

Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough.  :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".

But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!"  ;) :)
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Re: Tires
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2016, 12:38:50 PM »
That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...

Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough.  :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".

But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!"  ;) :)

They do the inspection in about 2 minutes as I sit on the bike and turn on signals, lights and horn. They don't ride it to test brakes and the rest is visual. Surely they must look at tires to see if they have enough tread?  As for insurance concerns,  riders have been installing c/t on bikes for quite awhile as this is not a new practice and I have yet to read of any issues regarding this. If I do, I will go back to a m/t.
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Re: Tires
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2016, 09:08:27 PM »
That´s interesting indeed. Your annual or biennial vehicle safety- and emission inspections must be pretty easy and relaxed then. But on the other hand you need extra turn signals mounted on the handle bar of some scooters, because the built in ones are not good enough...

Not so here in Europe. Here the tires must fit the proper tire size/dimension given by the vehicles manufacturer. Therefore the built in turn signals are way good enough.  :D
And not only this, most advocates highly recommend to use only tire brands/models which have explicit clearance from the tire manufacturer or the vehicle manufacturer for the specific bike model. Just to avoid insurance issues in case of an accident and not leaving doors wide open for "hedge lawyers".

But like an old saying: "No risk, no fun!"  ;) :)

It's a different world over here.  I have been riding for over 35 years and have NEVER had to have any of my bikes inspected except to verify the VIN.  Some states require it but not any of the states I have registered a motorcycle or scooter in.

As for running car tires on bikes, it's not that uncommon here.  I have ridden with a number of riders running CTs.  Safety does not seem to be an issue.  The only real "issue" seems to be a different feel than with MC/Scooter tires. 

Legal issue?  I have seen that brought up in forum discussions as a reason not to run a CT but have NEVER seen an example of anyone running into legal issues from running a CT.

Like I mentioned it's a different world here and you will see some strange stuff.  These look like tractor tires:



It's even possible to register home made contraptions like this:



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Re: Tires
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2016, 08:07:21 PM »
New tire on.

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Re: Tires
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2016, 02:25:46 AM »
New tire on.
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