Making a case for scooters.

[Tromper]

Hmm looked around again, cuz that would rule out a couple different older bikes.

I ran into that in a discussion a while back & had a link when exploring the CTX, & was curious why it was called a motorcycle, vs.  a scooter.
Per wikipedia The United States Department of Transportation defines a scooter as a motorcycle that has a platform for the operator's feet or has integrated footrests, and has a step-through architecture.[2]

So you'd still qualify.  I suspect the definition probably changes a bit at some point, & are somewhat moot after the bike is imported since most states define any bike that can get out of it's own way as a motorcycle from what I can see.

So I guess my Helix is not a scooter. (It is kind of an odd bird)

[Forbes1964]

Tongue in cheek definition, for entertainment purposes only. ---If on a two lane highway there are frustrated drivers behind it itching to pass and giving obscene hand signals as they pass, it's a scooter. IF it's riding behind the cars waiting to pass them, its a motorcycle. lol.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Tongue in cheek definition, for entertainment purposes only. ---If on a two lane highway there are frustrated drivers behind it itching to pass and giving obscene hand signals as they pass, it's a scooter. IF it's riding behind the cars waiting to pass them, its a motorcycle. lol.

Forbes,
We had a member that used to boast here about giving obscene hand signals to drivers when beating them off of the line at an intersection. His girlfriend, on the back used to join in....laughing, both of them.

Yes, he received some flak here for so poorly representing scooter riders.

Your comment about slow scoots out on the roads - made me think of an older couple over on the SYM forum who had put over 60,000 miles on a matched pair of red SYM big wheelers (125's if I recall correctly) he said they just wave the cars past as they explore miles of country lanes, and never had much of a problem. They take great photos of those red scoots parked in scenic spots. It was easy for me to envy them.

Stig

[ole two wheels]

Step thru vs leg over pretty well explains the difference.

[MJR]

I suppose the term maxi-scooter takes care of the larger scooters but to me a scooter to be called a scooter then it must have a CVT .

Dang Paul, don't tell the vintage crowd that...

Ah yes, you are right as I did not think of the vintage scooters.  I was thinking modern scooters. 

I had considered a "shifty" when I bought the Like but my left wrist sometimes gets cranky and the clutch and shift thing would have been a pain. I almost got a Vespa 200E in the 1980s but bought a Suzuki TS 125 enduro instead from a co worker who figured out too late that two wheel commuting was not for him.

Saw a few of those today at the Swerve & Curve event.