Like 200i air filter mount

[Duddy03]

The other day I felt it was time to purchase a new filter for my scooter.  I noticed that a screw was missing from the filter mount.  The bolt appears to be an M5 X 1.50 x 20.  However, as seen from the attached picture, the thread size is not 1.50.  In fact, it doesn't match any common size thread.  Nor does it appear to have a consistent thread pattern.  I can only guess that it is some type of a self-taping screw.  I tried to order the part from the KYMCO dealer but the parts person said KYMCO adds a $20 handling fee to a $2 part.  After being directed to a local Lowe's store, I confirmed that they had nothing that would be identical.  (As a side note, the KYMCO dealer didn't seem to believe me that all scooter parts are metric with the possible exception of the mirror mounts.)

Comments?  As is sometimes the case, one missing screw will not let the air filter fall off.  Oh, well, . . .

By the way, the new $29.81 air filter comes with a P/N 17211-LGR5-E10 but doesn't come with a pre-filter (as does the OEM unit) and the parts listing doesn't show an available pre-filter.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Duddy,
I bought 5lbs of hardware from a crashed Like200i  from ebay.
Let me look tomorrow and see if I have this screw.
I'll mail you one if I find it.
Handling charge is $200, or a donut.
If you don't hear from me Monday...I'm having a senior moment so PM me to get me moving.
Stig

[Iahawk]

when I pull my People S200 airbox cover off it always looks like I'm missing a screw for the air filter but it is not the case as one of the perimeter airbox cover screws goes into the 'missing' filter screw. Could this be the same situation with the like?

[Ruffus]

@Duddy03,
those screws are 5x20 mm "wood thread" self tapping ones.(pls see pics)
 Go to your local hardware store or car body shop and ask for this kind of screws. Even if the new ones would be a little bit bigger, let's say 5,5 mm, the plastic cover will take it.

Quote: (As a side note, the KYMCO dealer didn't seem to believe me that all scooter parts are metric with the possible exception of the mirror mounts.)
All KYMCO Like bolts are metric and measured in mm. I would change this dealer for a knowing one.

[Duddy03]

Sorry, my follow up post got lost in the Internet.  Thanks for all who got me back on track.  The filter housing was reinstalled without the one missing "wood" self-threading screw.  The pre-filter was cleaned and refastened with the help of a couple is strips of electrical tape.  The "puke" tube was checked and it was clean.  The obstruction in the air tube (as discussed in this forum in the past) was removed.  It didn't seem to make much difference but I am glad I removed it.  There is a third screw that holds on the plastic cosmetic strip that needs to be removed when trying to remove the air filter.  It is a small screw below the right side screw.

Thank you Stig for offering to mail me a screw.  I'll won't repeat my comic remark regarding donuts!

[Ruffus]

@Duddy03, you will have done it, but think of relocating the gears venting hose at airfilter casing.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Sorry, my follow up post got lost in the Internet.  Thanks for all who got me back on track.  The filter housing was reinstalled without the one missing "wood" self-threading screw.  The pre-filter was cleaned and refastened with the help of a couple is strips of electrical tape.  The "puke" tube was checked and it was clean.  The obstruction in the air tube (as discussed in this forum in the past) was removed.  It didn't seem to make much difference but I am glad I removed it.  There is a third screw that holds on the plastic cosmetic strip that needs to be removed when trying to remove the air filter.  It is a small screw below the right side screw.

Thank you Stig for offering to mail me a screw.  I'll won't repeat my comic remark regarding donuts!

Pre-filter ---- is it a piece of foam? Do not have that on any of my OEM spares.
Sounds like that may have been a HiFlo variant of the OEM. If your scoot is new - probably just an assembly variant.
In any event - never found that my air filter to gets dirty. Might be the way the snorkel tip is situated in such 'clean' air?

And, yeah, removing the restrictor in the air intake snorkel on the LIKE is a mod which goes back years & years!

Does it make much difference? (except to the intake howl )
 However, in the scooter world - anything which makes more noise obviously equals more power & speed!

Somebody once explained perhaps why Kymco put the restrictor in there - had to do with Venturi effect on air movement?
I didn't take sides....but mine's still in there.

Stig

[Duddy03]

Since the air filter has never been removed, the pre-filter was installed by KYMCO.  It measures 170 mm X 73 mm X 11 mm thick foam.   And since it was grey I couldn't tell just how dirty it was while washing it in soapy water.  (The odometer has 8,500 miles on it.)  There are little barbs on this air filter and the pre-filter has several little holes to clip it onto the filter. Pulling it off tends to rip the foam just enough so that I had to tape it back on.  The filter itself had a small slightly darkened area but it was almost like new.  I agree, this filter doesn't get dirty!  I would love to work in a little foam oil into the pre-filter (like lawn mowers sometimes use) but even a little oil on the paper element would not be a good thing.

Since I removed the air intake restriction, I'll report back if I notice any changes to noise, performance or fuel economy.  The plastic piece was held in position by friction and a drop of RTV; it can be re-inserted.

The tip of the intake tube seems to just dangle about an inch from the front grill-work of the scooter.  If it was somehow clipped into something, it could face directly forward and perhaps increase the ram effect of fast moving air into the engine.  I suspect there would not, however, be a measurable difference in performance.

[big blue]

I removed the restrictor in the intake also and it did make the induction a little more throaty but did not effect performance much. All the replacement filters I have gotten didn't include the foam pre- filter.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Not a whole lot of ram air effect at my leisurely 28>33MPH cruising....what little air gets past my size 14Wide boots !
Stig

[Ruffus]

Talking about LIKE airfilters, (pls see pic),
this is how the airfilter of my lately purchased Like looked.
And of course the previous owner told me with blue eyes it was recently serviced by dealership.🤔😂
And Yes, there is no prefilter in replacements.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Talking about LIKE airfilters, (pls see pic),
this is how the airfilter of my lately purchased Like looked.
And of course the previous owner told me with blue eyes it was recently serviced by dealership.🤔😂
And Yes, there is no prefilter in replacements.

So, that is what an Italian cat used to look like!

Stig

[Ruffus]

@Stig, yes, could be. Didn't think 'bout a cat being sucked in by this huge engine.🤣