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Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« on: August 18, 2021, 09:08:46 PM »
After "cycling" through a Kymco Downtown 300 and a new Kymco Spade 150 mini motorcycle over two years time my S/O finally found something comfortable for her 4 10 frame that she can handle with a motor.  It's an ebike!!  LOL.   I admit I loved keeping her Kymco vehicles running but this is a hoot that both she and I can do for many more years since we are both bicycle riders anyway!  No fear of hills now since the electric motor will help with the pedaling.  Those with weak knees or legs will appreciate this a lot.  Our bikes even come with mc style throttles to power the rear wheel if you don't feel like pedaling.  The 14 amp hr battery will put out only so much power depending on how much you call for. So uphill  = some wattage ... throttle alone takes a lot more. Weight weather and motor assistance dictate whats left in the battery bank.  Really a game changer for us.  I will be giving up MC riding not tomorrow but soon.  Bicycling, this takes it into many years ahead with no fear of going up any hills or off to the grocery store a few miles away.  with Pedaling I expect we can comfortably go 40-50 miles comfortably.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2021, 04:13:03 PM by SemperVee »
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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2021, 10:16:47 PM »
Good for you!
I tried riding a bike to work in Dayton many years ago.
Had to give it up before I was run down on the narrow city streets.
Glad you folks live where you can do this.
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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2021, 12:01:11 AM »
Good for you!
I tried riding a bike to work in Dayton many years ago.
Had to give it up before I was run down on the narrow city streets.
Glad you folks live where you can do this.
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Stig a person I know bought a electric bike from Europe.  He is legally blind but has vision but cannot drive a car.  He bought a high dollar electric bike that is supposedly capable of running 60 mph.  I will have to check it out when he receives it.

Not my cup of tea but seeing more and more electric scooters running around town.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2021, 04:12:24 PM »
Stig a person I know bought a electric bike from Europe.  He is legally blind but has vision but cannot drive a car.  He bought a high dollar electric bike that is supposedly capable of running 60 mph.  I will have to check it out when he receives it.

Not my cup of tea but seeing more and more electric scooters running around town.

NO factory electric bikes can run 60mph and Europe has a law keeping the power suppressed to half of what is available in the US.  Deep due diligence on my part.  Disk braked bikes can be invigorated with an installed $1100 mid drive kit but even then 35mph for any length of time is hard.  Batteries only come with so much wattage to use and when it's gone it's gone. These bikes can get very heavy and the bigger the battery the heavier and unwieldy it becomes.  Mine weighs in at 65 lbs before any added accdessories and I carry tools, etc.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2021, 04:15:05 PM by SemperVee »
2018 Kymco Spade 150
2012 Victory Cross Country Tour
2011 Kymco i300 DT (sold)
Many miles and smiles over 47 years of MC riding.
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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2021, 05:12:06 PM »
NO factory electric bikes can run 60mph and Europe has a law keeping the power suppressed to half of what is available in the US.  Deep due diligence on my part.  Disk braked bikes can be invigorated with an installed $1100 mid drive kit but even then 35mph for any length of time is hard.  Batteries only come with so much wattage to use and when it's gone it's gone. These bikes can get very heavy and the bigger the battery the heavier and unwieldy it becomes.  Mine weighs in at 65 lbs before any added accdessories and I carry tools, etc.
I don't know much about electric bikes but did look up on YouTube the top 10 fastest electric bikes.  The Neematic FR-1 is 20 hp with a top speed of 50 mph at 115# range of 62 miles.  Rimac G-12S 44 mph 16 hp 75 mile range.  along with others. They refered to off road bikes capable of running 60 but not road legal bikes.

Like I said I don't know much about electric bikes.
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Sold-32 Kymco scooters of various sizes this summer.

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2021, 06:28:44 PM »
I went down and talked to him about the electric bike he has ordered. It's a Delfast  3.0 built in the Ukraine. It is the Geinness world record holder and Forbes -fastest electric bike.  It has  pedals, 182 nm torque, mirrors, ABS, and a motor capable of 6k watts with the larger battery. Supposed to have a 200 mile range at lower speeds.   His 2nd choice was the Rimac G-12S but went with the Delfast because of the range.  He said the battery is supposed to last 8 years with a replacement cost of $1k.  He is supposed to get it in the 5th of next month
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2021, 08:44:02 PM »
I went down and talked to him about the electric bike he has ordered. It's a Delfast  3.0 built in the Ukraine. It is the Geinness world record holder and Forbes -fastest electric bike.  It has  pedals, 182 nm torque, mirrors, ABS, and a motor capable of 6k watts with the larger battery. Supposed to have a 200 mile range at lower speeds.   His 2nd choice was the Rimac G-12S but went with the Delfast because of the range.  He said the battery is supposed to last 8 years with a replacement cost of $1k.  He is supposed to get it in the 5th of next month

Heck, file that under with someones time and another person's money anything is possible.   I was talking about LEGAL, run of the mill, what is available to the average person and I am on an Electric bike forum with peeps way smarter than I about electricity. Here is their web site for Delfast https://urban-ebikes.com/collections/commuter-e-bikes. Most of their stuff is run of the mill legal and hold little percentage of the market.  https://www.bikeforums.net/industry-news/1216632-delfast-creates-world-s-best-most-powerful-top-e-bike.html

Have not even touched about it being legal on bike paths or streets for out of the ordinary steroid built bike. As we grow into this new technology I assume it will grow to outlandish proportions and then be regulated unlike now.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2021, 08:56:47 PM by SemperVee »
2018 Kymco Spade 150
2012 Victory Cross Country Tour
2011 Kymco i300 DT (sold)
Many miles and smiles over 47 years of MC riding.
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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2021, 09:25:26 PM »
Heck, file that under with someones time and another person's money anything is possible.   I was talking about LEGAL, run of the mill, what is available to the average person and I am on an Electric bike forum with peeps way smarter than I about electricity. Here is their web site for Delfast https://urban-ebikes.com/collections/commuter-e-bikes. Most of their stuff is run of the mill legal and hold little percentage of the market.  https://www.bikeforums.net/industry-news/1216632-delfast-creates-world-s-best-most-powerful-top-e-bike.html

Have not even touched about it being legal on bike paths or streets for out of the ordinary steroid built bike. As we grow into this new technology I assume it will grow to outlandish proportions and then be regulated unlike now.
Before he ordered it he talked with the police about it's legality.  They told him they didn't have a issue with it as long as he obeyed the rules. He is planning on taking a Motorcycle safety course which made me smile. 

He currently has a run of the mill electric bike as his only transportation. 

Another funny thing is my little Piaggio 50cc fly is capable of running 39 mph so the city makes me tag it as a motorcycle.  For a moped here it can't have over 50cc or go over 30 mph.
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Sold-32 Kymco scooters of various sizes this summer.

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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2021, 03:26:12 PM »

 Just purchased our second set of ebikes that are foldable style.  Can collapse and put in SUV or for me under PU truck cover -  RAD mini.. Great fun.  While at the store this weekend noticed quite a few scooter riders coming in to Demo the ebikes!! 
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2011 Kymco i300 DT (sold)
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Re: Not a Scooter nor Motorcycle -
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2021, 06:13:54 PM »
Just purchased our second set of ebikes that are foldable style.  Can collapse and put in SUV or for me under PU truck cover -  RAD mini.. Great fun.  While at the store this weekend noticed quite a few scooter riders coming in to Demo the ebikes!!
Sounds like it fits your needs very well.  Would not work for people such as me.
In parts 200S and Grand Vista and my motorcycles 2 CS BMW'S and one GS BMW.

Sold-32 Kymco scooters of various sizes this summer.

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