Some OTD Piaggio prices surprise me

[Stig / Major Tom]

In 2017 the MSRP for my Liberty 150i S was $3099.00
The 2022 price is now $3199.00, so a modest increase over 5 years!
But read today that a new owner paid just shy of $5000.00 OTD in Hawaii ~!! A thousand more than my OTD price shipped to Ohio.
Shipping from Piaggio's assembly plant in Vietnam to Hawaii should not have accounted for such a markup?
It's a great scooter....but that percentage of the MSRP seems too steep a markup.


Stig

[Mancashire]

Lack of competition? Do goods like this go from the originating country to the mainland and then to Hawaii - thus increasing the shipping costs?

[Iahawk]

that was my first thought, as well. Probably shipped to a port in California and then re-shipped to Hawaii?

This also doesn't tell us what this particular dealer charges for freight, set up, rustproof & undercoat (sorry, wrong industry, haha), etc.

[CROSSBOLT]

In 2017 the MSRP for my Liberty 150i S was $3099.00
The 2022 price is now $3199.00, so a modest increase over 5 years!
But read today that a new owner paid just shy of $5000.00 OTD in Hawaii ~!! A thousand more than my OTD price shipped to Ohio.
Shipping from Piaggio's assembly plant in Vietnam to Hawaii should not have accounted for such a markup?
It's a great scooter....but that percentage of the MSRP seems too steep a markup.


Stig

Only store in town....everything in Hawaii more expensive. If it weren't for service clubs on bases there, no sailor would ever get drunk! Har, har!

[souzamoto]

Hawaii is part of the US distribution area I believe. The bike likely came to the US warehouse, the dealers orders were processed and shipped to Hawaii. If If Piaggio-Vespa-Aprilla-Moto Guzzi USA were smart, they would sell the dealer a container full of product to save shipping costs. Distributors have a "Landed Cost", then there is distributor mark-up to dealer cost then freight to the dealer. Freight to Hawaii is ridiculous.

[randyo]

Hawaii is part of the US distribution area I believe. The bike likely came to the US warehouse, the dealers orders were processed and shipped to Hawaii. If If Piaggio-Vespa-Aprilla-Moto Guzzi USA were smart, they would sell the dealer a container full of product to save shipping costs. Distributors have a "Landed Cost", then there is distributor mark-up to dealer cost then freight to the dealer. Freight to Hawaii is ridiculous.

my local dealer ordered a bunch of scooters from Kymco, they told him not available, unless he took a whole container, 80 scooters, that was 7 weeks ago, he's only got a dozen left as of the day I bought mine 10 days ago, and other than mine, they are all fugly green

[klaviator]

This is happening to all brands all over the country.  Low supply and high demand means many dealers are taking advantage of the situation with high fees.  I have heard of dealers asking $4000 OTD for the Honda Navi which has an MSRP of $1807.  Try buying a Grom, Trail125 or ADV150.  OTD prices 1-2K over MSRP are common.

[KymcoRockr]

my local dealer ordered a bunch of scooters from Kymco, they told him not available, unless he took a whole container, 80 scooters, that was 7 weeks ago, he's only got a dozen left as of the day I bought mine 10 days ago, and other than mine, they are all fugly green

That's a very strange thing for a dealer to lie about. I've worked with Kymco at the dealer/distributor level, and that's not how it works. Next time you go in, ask him to show you how they fold the scooters in half to get that many into a container.

[Neil955i]

Next time you go in, ask him to show you how they fold the scooters in half to get that many into a container.

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