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like200i wont start no spark
« on: November 12, 2022, 07:23:37 PM »
Hi all, Thanks for this amazing forum.
I recently got a free nonworking like200i not sure of the year.
so far I removed all the body parts to inspect, put a good strong battery and it would not crank.
tested solenoid and it was good, tested starter motor and it was fried. put new starter motor and now it cranks but wont
start. there were signs they messed with the wiring before so i found the wiring diagram and restored most of the main
cables by the battery area, red to red with 15 amp fuse, black and blue to black with 10 amp fuse, it was also missing the key switch so installed a basic 2 wire key switch on the red and black/blue, and no trusting the kill switch I installed a basic on off switch with the 2 black/blue wires.

so when checking for spark and cranking engine I get 1 and some times 2 sparks and that's all, no more spark, "checked" coil, coil cable, new spark plug,
and still the same. I then wanted to see what's going on with the injector while checking for spark so i removed injector and it also acts just like the spark while cranking it sprays once maybe twice the most and no more spraying while cranking. I have mixed feelings here about the coil but i feel like it can be the computer or something making the computer stop the spark and fuel, i tried all this tests with brake lever pressed and in both positions of the kill switch, and in both positions i get that one spark. I know about the tip over sensor and I'm not sure how to test that one. can some one look a their like200 and tell me how many wire are on your ignition key switch and what color wires are on your kill switch and start button switch, I feel I'm missing a wire here or ground or something.
 what I have is red and black/blue at key switch, black/blue and black/blue for kill switch, and green and red/yellow for start switch.

another strange thing to me, when key is on ON, and kill switch off (wires not touching each other) the fuel pump relay cycles on and off and i hear the fuel pump doing the same, and when the kill switch is ON ( both cables touching each other) I hear the fuel pump just for 2 seconds and then goes off. but remember I get the 1 spark symptom with kill switch on either side.

on the wiring diagram that I found for like200i I don't see a kill switch and black/blue wires, so I need help to confirm this switches wiring.

Thanks for your help guys.

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2022, 09:24:00 PM »
Hello airfiber Welcome to The Forum.
VIN is found under long removable plastic  tab in front of your knees.
A second info label with scoots birthdate is found under right body panel above muffler, on the frame.
Both will tell you the model year.
All model years are exactly the same but for body colors .... but
year information will be useful to us in sorting your issues.
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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2022, 10:13:17 PM »
Thanks Stig
Engine vin # LCD3-EOOO-3 the O could be zeros not sure
Near muffler # LGS6-E10- III    YF
In front of knees/ frame vin# LC2D2H121JC100258
Body color black..

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2022, 10:23:23 PM »
Found another# on front plastic body cover
# 64302-LGR5-EOOO

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2022, 10:24:45 PM »
Thanks Stig
Engine vin # LCD3-EOOO-3 the O could be zeros not sure
Near muffler # LGS6-E10- III    YF
In front of knees/ frame vin# LC2D2H121JC100258
Body color black..
Date of manufacture is stated on that tag above muffler. If side panel is in place usually have to lay down and look up in there with a flashlight.
Silver tag.
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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2022, 10:33:15 PM »
@Airfiberoptics, welcome here too!
Pls see att pics of your ignition switch.
Basically five cables of which the black one (with single connector) is without function on your LIKE 200i.
I would check again all ignition parts and ground connection, particularely towards starter motor and within/under fuse box for corrosion.

Also I would see ignition fault and temp NO fuel injection as two seperate cases.

This main connector to your ECU is sometimes loose...
Handlebar switches pinch cables...
Starter motor relais corrosion..

# 64302-LGR5-EOOO = KYMCO part #

Looking up this side tag on your LIKEs frame is easier if you use a mirror and hold it beneath.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 11:08:49 PM by Ruffus »
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2022, 10:35:24 PM »
Www.cyclepedia.com sells a manual with correct wiring diagram. And troubleshooting. Code explanation,  etc.

Might not be a bad investment for your free LIKE200I.
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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2022, 11:39:25 PM »
Wow guys I can't thank You enough for your reply.
Problem fixed.
It's the angle sensor aka tip off sensor.
I removed sensor from the front fork, and moved it and shared it if all directions and still no spark.
Then I completely unplugged it from the harness and boom  I got spark and my injector was spraying normal.
The fact that spark and injector were acting the same way helped eliminate the ignition coil/ cable side and made me focus on ecu towards kill switches.
Now injector in place, spark plug in place it fires rigth up
Already started a few times without this sensor, I'm not sure I wanna put a new one. With engine warmed and fully open throtle I did a compression test and barely gets 95, this is too low unless my compression tool is bad. I need to assault it back and go for a drive and see performance.
Thanks again.

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2022, 12:57:30 AM »
Hey Airfiber, welcome to the forum. There is a great and very helpful team of people here that know their stuff.
As for the tip over sensor I would recommend replacing it if the one now isn't working. It is important at least in my opinion. I've had my bike go down once and I'm glad it shut everything down so I could focus on the incident and make sure I was OK without having to worry about turning if off. Either way I'm glad you're up running.
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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2022, 12:58:48 PM »
Glad you found out. Forget this sensor.
Compression test is done with throttle full open.
Happy and safe scootering, Ruffus

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2022, 10:34:17 PM »
Follow up. A had installed everything back permanently
And went for a test drive and it feels like a new scooter
Engine feels normal in power. I order a new kill switch
For it and another angle sensor from a different scooter, I hope
I can make it work and leave the safety feature, this is
For a 15 year old girl and I would like that feature on.
Thanks again.

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 12:57:59 AM »
Follow up. A had installed everything back permanently
And went for a test drive and it feels like a new scooter
Engine feels normal in power. I order a new kill switch
For it and another angle sensor from a different scooter, I hope
I can make it work and leave the safety feature, this is
For a 15 year old girl and I would like that feature on.
Thanks again.
Agreed - good for a 15 yr old. Be aware, LIKE200i owners manual is not correct, side stand down does not shut off the engine....or prevent a start.
Will she be taking the Motorcycle Safety riding course?

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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 12:59:36 AM »
Follow up. A had installed everything back permanently
And went for a test drive and it feels like a new scooter
Engine feels normal in power. I order a new kill switch
For it and another angle sensor from a different scooter, I hope
I can make it work and leave the safety feature, this is
For a 15 year old girl and I would like that feature on.
Thanks again.
Outstanding follow-up report! You received some terrific input and you were persistent. Great success!
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Re: like200i wont start no spark
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2022, 05:54:17 PM »
Yes, she will be taking safety course eventually,  for now I'm teaching her what I can, plus she will use in non paved roads only un rural community. Once ready in age and proper training/license  she will go to town...

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