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Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« on: March 20, 2023, 11:02:21 PM »
Bike has 6800 miles and the front stock tire is looking worn with fine edge lines, rear tire tread is alright but looks slightly flat. Bought the Michelin Pilot Road 4 Scooter tires from Revzilla.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-4-scooter-tires?sku_id=1789016

Im not able to change the tires and install myself, a Kymco specialized dealer (RedLine Powersports) is 2 hours away from me. I called up Scooter Stop 10 minutes from me, they said they'd be able to do it but I'm not sure if they understand what the AK 550 really is.

For those that had their tires changed did you got to any motorcycle service place? Or should I go with Kymco service people?

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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2023, 11:18:30 PM »
Just to be certain it is done right I'd go with the Kymco dealer. I used to removed the wheels myself and take just those to any shop to get rubber replaced. I did that with the front tire on my AK and took the wheel to a Suzuki dealer where I would go for my Burgman 650. They were real reasonable for charges to do this and had no issues with just the rubber swap. I learned I can just do the tire swap one wheel at a time when it is needed if I removed the wheel and just took that in to the shop.

I did replace the rear tire on my AK myself. It was a struggle to get the new rubber on the rim but not really hard otherwise. Patience and persistence paid off.

But I would not just take the bike in to let them do it unless you can confirm they have experience with belt driven bikes. Aligning the belt is the most important part.

For the one time I wanted a Kymco dealer to look at my AK I rented a U-Haul mc trailer to take it there and again to pick it up. My wife wasn't able to trail me to give me a ride or I would have just ridden my AK to the dealer and had my wife give me a ride on the non-bike part of the trip either way. My dealer is also about 2+ hours away... 125 miles... and I don't take the Interstate to get there with the bike in tow.
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2023, 01:39:50 AM »
my bikes are 100% dealer serviced,  dealer is 6, maybe 7 miles away, but they will come pickup with a phone call, and deliver when finished, not sure if that's a special perc or not.
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2023, 02:41:27 AM »
Definitely a special perk.
The local Honda dealer would let me take a loaner bike from any that were outside in front of the shop of the used bikes they had. But only if I had them servicing my Honda motorcycle. That was also a special perk. No other dealer I've worked with would do that... I asked.
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2023, 02:58:52 AM »
Thanks Rjs!! You're always a wealth of information, you're right about the belt and the tension. That's what I'm more worried about. I'll just bite the bullet and take the 2 hour trip, uhaul Mc trailer is like $15 for a day.

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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2023, 05:00:29 AM »
Definitely a special perk.
The local Honda dealer would let me take a loaner bike from any that were outside in front of the shop of the used bikes they had. But only if I had them servicing my Honda motorcycle. That was also a special perk. No other dealer I've worked with would do that... I asked.

I got a loaner bike once, but mostly cause my truck was also down, and I had to attend a zoning board meeting for the owner, they gave me a loaded out Vulcan, reminded me that I don't like forward controls and that big flat windshields rob you of the wind in your face motorcycle experience
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2023, 02:58:31 PM »
Thanks Rjs!! You're always a wealth of information, you're right about the belt and the tension. That's what I'm more worried about. I'll just bite the bullet and take the 2 hour trip, uhaul Mc trailer is like $15 for a day.

This photo shows how I tied down my AK on the U-Haul mc trailer. I believe this is the best way to avoid needing to remove any plastic and also avoid any damage to the handlebars (which can and has happened to others I personally know who used the bars to tie their ST1300 down). This method does not compress the front forks and that is not needed this way. No damage to the fork seals doing this way as sometimes does happen when you compress the forks.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xesAVJC2j5f5G2H9

Two straps around the fork on the front wheel as shown pulls the AK into the integrated wheel chock since they are angled forward to the front/side D rings on the trailer. Do not put the straps to the railings of the trailer. Use the tie down rings. The wheel chock is what does 80-90% of the work holding the bike upright. The straps in front do help a little but also are still in the right place to keep the bike upright as well. The lower brackets on each fork prevent the straps from moving down. As long as the strap is above the axle they will do their job perfectly.

Two straps around the rear wheel as shown. No need to do more in the rear since the ONLY purpose is to hold the rear of the bike from walking side to side. As long as the bike is kept straight with the front wheel there is no further need for any more support than this. AND THIS BIT IS VERY IMPORTANT, you do want to put on the parking brake to prevent the rear wheel from turning due to bouncing on the trailer. Also, be careful routing those straps around/under the center stand.

You do NOT want to leave the center stand or side stand down. Be sure to put those up to prevent poking holes in the trailer floor or damaging the bike frame or the stands. Let the suspension of the bike do what it does.

To tie down the bike put it onto the side stand and then put the left front strap on first... but only tight enough to make it tight when you stand the bike straight up in the trailer while sitting on it. Then put the right front strap on and tighten both the right and left straps to pull the AK firmly into the integrated wheel chock and hold the bike straight up. Then finally put on the parking brake and put on the rear straps to firmly hold the rear wheel in place and put UP the side stand.

When you remove the straps be sure to remember to put the side stand down first... then release the front strap on the right side first and let the bike lean over onto the side stand... then remove the other straps. I did put down the side stand first but then had a brainiac senior moment and made the mistake of loosening the left front strap first. And since I had stopped on a slight slope to the right the bike leaned over to the right. I was able to grab the handlebars and slow the lean to ease my AK against the right rounded rail of the trailer. The trailer is narrow enough that now there is only a slight rub mark on the right colored fairing above the logo oval where it sticks out the most. Can't really see it unless I am looking real close. Glad that trailer rail is a smooth rounded edge.

Like I said, you DO NOT need more straps than this and only the front straps are needed to hold the bike straight up and tight into the integrated wheel chock... which does most of the work. This setup worked really well for me even at some faster speeds on slightly bouncy roads. NO shifting of the bike on the trailer and NO hint of the bike not being supported more than enough.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2023, 03:00:05 PM by rjs987 »
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2023, 04:04:55 PM »
Thanks Rjs!

Random question but I saw on another forum you mention the rear wheel can be taken off without messing with the tension on the belt? Did I read that wrong, can the rear tire be taken off and replaced without messing with the tension at all?

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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2023, 05:47:07 PM »
Thanks Rjs!

Random question but I saw on another forum you mention the rear wheel can be taken off without messing with the tension on the belt? Did I read that wrong, can the rear tire be taken off and replaced without messing with the tension at all?

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No, it cannot.

You CAN remove the rear wheel without removing the rear shock or removing the belt entirely. Even though this is what the service manual says to do. But I was able to leave the belt on the front drive sprocket.

To remove the rear wheel you do have to remove the axle and that requires you to release the tension on the belt and take the belt off only the rear sprocket. This is what I did. I took off the upper and lower outer drive belt covers, backed off the belt tension screw all the way, and was then able to pull the belt off the rear sprocket. That rear sprocket is part of the rear wheel.
Here is a photo of when I pulled the rear belt off the sprocket.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9MMBiPTo7PcPbGiB7

I did post somewhere what I did with pictures when I removed my rear wheel and reinstalled when replacing the tire.

Attached is a link to the official service manual section that I extracted for doing this. (too big to attach). I did not remove the covers over the front drive sprocket and I did not remove the rear shock at all. But I did follow most of what is instructed only as needed to for getting the rear wheel off. Instruction manuals always tend to have you doing a lot more to do some things than is really needed so it's up to you to determine how far you really need to go to do what you are attempting to do.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6LZ2Zf4BWhFNRTfM84TaiklX1mo3I43/view?usp=sharing
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2023, 06:38:33 PM »
I don't have an AK550 but when I need new tires for my scooters I generally take the wheel off and take it to a dealer to have the tire mounted.  The local motorcycle dealer may or may not be able to balance your rear tire.  It depends on whether the have an adaptor to fit your tire.  The front wheel shouldn't be an issue.  Your kymco dealer should be able to balance the tire but if they are mostly a motorcycle dealer that does scooters on the side they may not.  At least they will be familiar with taking the rear wheel off if you take the scooter in.  Any shop should be able to mount your tires.  The question will be if they can balance the rear wheel.

Another thing to think about is that some shops will not mount tires you did not buy the tires from them or they will at least charge extra.  Make sure you ask that question in advance.
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Re: Getting Kymco AK 550 tires replaced?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2023, 08:01:39 PM »
No, it cannot.

You CAN remove the rear wheel without removing the rear shock or removing the belt entirely. Even though this is what the service manual says to do. But I was able to leave the belt on the front drive sprocket.

To remove the rear wheel you do have to remove the axle and that requires you to release the tension on the belt and take the belt off only the rear sprocket. This is what I did. I took off the upper and lower outer drive belt covers, backed off the belt tension screw all the way, and was then able to pull the belt off the rear sprocket. That rear sprocket is part of the rear wheel.
Here is a photo of when I pulled the rear belt off the sprocket.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9MMBiPTo7PcPbGiB7

I did post somewhere what I did with pictures when I removed my rear wheel and reinstalled when replacing the tire.

Attached is a link to the official service manual section that I extracted for doing this. (too big to attach). I did not remove the covers over the front drive sprocket and I did not remove the rear shock at all. But I did follow most of what is instructed only as needed to for getting the rear wheel off. Instruction manuals always tend to have you doing a lot more to do some things than is really needed so it's up to you to determine how far you really need to go to do what you are attempting to do.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6LZ2Zf4BWhFNRTfM84TaiklX1mo3I43/view?usp=sharing

I did find your Google Doc of how you removed and installed rear wheel, bought the pressure gauge tool and will use your method! I also found this video of a guy using a music tune app to get and F for his Yamaha Tmax, don't know how accurate that is but the pressure gauge is the best can do without buying that ridiculous tool!


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