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MPG drop? What are some causes?
« on: January 31, 2012, 04:24:51 AM »
IIt's official, I have been averaging 38 miles per gallon on my last three tanks.

I ride an xciting 2009 500ri.

I've been driving like i usually do.

Newer Spark Plugs.

Newer Air Filter.

What else could it be?

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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 06:51:49 AM »
Tire inflation!  Or brakes dragging.  Spin the wheels while on centerstand to see how freely they spin.

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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 03:52:18 PM »
Tire inflation!  Or brakes dragging.  Spin the wheels while on centerstand to see how freely they spin.

Grossly underinflated tires (40% LESS pressure) in cars cause consumption to rise up between 0.2 and 1.5 % which is negligible and cannot even be measured without sophisticated equipment.

People often quote under-inflated tires as a cause of higher consumption while in reality there is very little influence. (to my own surprise)
This is one of the most frequent advices you can read in articles or see on TV.

Here is a great scientific study about this topic, based on thousands of cars, SUVs and small trucks in USA:

http://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=study%20american%20tire%20inflation%20fuel%20consumption&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trb.org%2Fpublications%2Fsr%2Fsr286.pdf&ei=Lw0oT77sA5HssgamidXKAQ&usg=AFQjCNEubS14OuCpt_naYix5qdorlvd1PQ





Regarding this topic, I have noticed the same in the past.
With Peugeot Zenith, I have had spikes in consumption + 50 % just like that. It used to consume 3.2 l / 100 km and suddenly it jumped to 5.

My P250S used to need 4.0 l/100 km, now it is 5.0 l/100 km flat. + 25 % overnight.

These are not scoots with underinflated tires, with stuck brakes, with dirty air filter, with old spark plug, problems with carb or anything else.
I did not drive under different conditions, climate or roads.
It happened "just like that" and never reversed back. Otherwise, scoots performed just like they performed before.

Really, I have no explanation for this, and there should be one. My solution was to stop worrying about that.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 10:10:51 PM by axy »
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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 05:14:31 PM »
Imho most likely: Different filling of a small tank.
How deep the pump nozzle is inserted, how the fuel sprays around and causes the pump to stop.

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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 10:12:40 PM »
Imho most likely: Different filling of a small tank.
How deep the pump nozzle is inserted, how the fuel sprays around and causes the pump to stop.

I am fully aware of what you are saying.

However, when you fill the tank 100 times and scoot consumes every time 3-3.2 l/100 km and then for the next 100 times it consumes 4.9-5,1 l/100 km it makes you wonder.
I have experienced that ONLY with scoots.
Really strange.
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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 10:22:35 PM »
My first thought would be computer error/enriching for colder denser air. Scoots will run lean in cold air so the FI system richens it up as per the O2 sensor. Low compression will act the same. We're not talking about a fuel inj. system here tho so I would guess worn rings/ carbon/ valve adjustment?!?
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Re: MPG drop? What are some causes?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 10:24:14 PM »
Just re-read. Maybe it is an O2 sensor prob. Or just doing what it is supposed to do. Richen it up for denser air.
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