Engine warm up

[Mike Green]

The last time I posted anything was 05/05/12. However, having a strong masochistic personality, here I go again. You know I did not
mind when Mr. Vivo emplied that I did not understand the desperation of poverty. I have volunteered many hours and weeks and months to poor and sick patients in places such as Managua, Nicaragua and Bogota, Colombia and I understand poverty. I did not mind when Mr. Vivo lectured me on the neurophysiology of dominant side coordination. But when Mr. Zombie called me a piece of "human excrement" because I asked what the "R" meant in Xciting 500Ri. After that it was time to say adios. You know I have continued to read the forum because it is a good place to learn and being new to 2 wheel automation that's all I wanted to do was to learn. I have watched guys like Mr. 08087 and Mr. HoHo and Mr. Syl come into the fold and not take offense at the insults, however I noticed that the insults did not seem to be so odd as mine. It seems that Mr. Zombie and his little shoulder monkey, Mr. Vivo both suffer from reaction formation issues that were probably the result of low self esteem has created this need to embarrass or humiliate new comers. BUT here I go again. In different posts I have read that scoots with fuel injection require no warm up from a cold start. My X500Ri, "what's the hole for?" has what they call an "Owner's Manuel", which is highly detailed, informative and infused with the world's latest technology on motor scooters. In referring to this accurate, up to date, and in accord with accepted standards publication it clears up all confusion..." allow the oil to circulate through the engine." Now I know old Zombie and Vivo are going to laugh their asses off because I'm so dumb I don't understand that statement. Anyone out there with a fuel injected maxi scoot who can shed some light on the warm up issue I thank you.   

[Vivo]

Mr. Vivo emplied that I did not understand the desperation of poverty. I have volunteered many hours and weeks and months to poor and sick patients in places such as Managua, Nicaragua and Bogota, Colombia and I understand poverty. I did not mind when Mr. Vivo lectured me on the neurophysiology of dominant side coordination.




Mr Mike, I never implied any bad thing in my statement. I was just explaining to you that the man who digs graves here is just making an honest living and does not steal to feed his family. Nothing more. I was just sharing information to you.

Also, I did not lecture you on the neurophysiology of dominant side coordination.  I was just answering your question on why is it easier to turn left than right on a motorbike.  I thought I was helping a fellow scooterist here Mike. This is what the forum is for , right?

And we didn't and will never laugh at anybody here. 

I hope this clears things Mike...

Now, I want to answer your question on warm-ups.

I think warm-ups has nothing to do with the fuel delivery system of a vehicle.  Generally, I would start my scoot or car, run at idle for a few seconds, maybe 30 seconds or less, then go at a slow speed. This warms-up my engine while driving. Warming up for a long time only means wasting of fuel. 

Now, lets go to "allow the oil to circulate".   Yes, but it doesnt take very long for the oil to circulate. Scooters and motorcycles have small engines compared to cars and use only one or a bit more liter of oil.  With todays multi-viscosity oils, the oil can flow easy at a cold temperature. Oils like 5w-30 or 10w-30 or with even lower viscosity numbers are recommended for cold conditions because they flow easily when cold. 

This is just answering your question, Mike...

[ce]

At idle, oil circulation is minimal, so increase RPMs to burn more fuel, make more heat, increase oil flow and dispersal until engine will maintain an open throttle, then proceed underway as engine reaches initial operating temperature, usually about one minute.
Dumbass.

[zombie]

     Thanks Ce!

 Mr. Mike. Don't take anything here to heart. Some people just have thinner skin.
Honestly I don't recall directly calling anyone  a "piece of do do" but anything is possible... If I did... I apologize. I do remember the "what's this hole for" thread. I think that's the one that put me over the top.
There are two things that get me started... 1) When you show someone a link, and they come back asking "is the part is avail. in red,"
                                                    and  2) When you answer a question, and they say "How do you know"

I'm sure neither of these apply to you. You may have been too close when the fuse was lit so again... I'm sorry if I offended you.
Warm up is always good. Just not to excess. Ce, and Vivo have it right.

[Vivo]

Where do you live Mike? Maybe we can suggest the proper oil viscosity for your scoot.  Most manual says 15W-40 and that is very general. I will not put 15w-40 if I live in a very cold country.

[sissy mary]

I use mobile one 15/50. I start up the bike and ride away. The old (let it warm up before taking off) is old school and incorrect. Just start it, and take off at a normal to slow pace, do not take off like a bat out of h-ll. I few second warm up is enough to get the oil to the top end. And also, I have never heard anyone here speak bad of anyone on this forum! Maybe in a joke, but not for real. You are taking things wrong, or are to thin skinned? Lighten up.

[htcneil2]

i remember the left brain right brain thing, but i didn't remember it being driven to offend.

I start the scoot, put my gear on then ride. Putting gear can take about a minute or three!

Once i'm ready to pull the throttle, i'm ready to pull the throttle.

[ailixhomes]

Engine is very useful accessories for vehicle. There are many different type of engine available in markets. It is machine designed to convert energy into useful mechanical motion.

[ce]

Que vole, ese homes!

Aunque me parece que no te a caido Ingles por tu idioma primera, siempre tienes algunas buenas palabras para ayudar al grupo.

Gracias.

[Vivo]

nice ce

[HOHO]

Hi Mike,
          Welcome back to the forum and although I haven't read the comments aimed in your direction keep in mind the strength of character it takes to aim barbs anonymously at someone when there are no consequences possible.  You won't be able to change such people so forgive them (or ignore them) move on and hope that they see the light of reason some day.
      I'm like you I joined up to get info from my new X family and most of them have been able to help me with advice that I usually wind up using. But, if you can't find the info on line or at your dealer try writing to Kymco (Canada in my case) at  inforequest@kymco.ca and a woman named Sabina gets back to you.  If she doesn't know the answer she asks the engineers, technicians etc. and gives me the info I need. 
     As far as letting it warm up, my dealer says 30 seconds to a minute is all I need.  I assume he knows more than me so that's what I've been doing.  Hope this helps
HO HO! :
PS Maybe if we stuck to scooters on this forum we'd get along better.  There are lots of political and personal forums out there for all matters NON SCOOTER.  Ride safely....