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Vapor cannister hunt
« on: October 02, 2012, 09:37:16 PM »
Had a little "fading" in power recently that seemed similar to vapor cannister sludge ingestion experienced in other vehicles. So I went on a hunt for this thing. Wound up removing all the Kymco Tupperware from the back to the leg shield. Turns out the real culprit seemed to be the little vacuum controlled "switch" that vents the fuel tank fumes to the cannister. It seemed sticky so I removed it and re-plumbed the works so the vent line is open to the tail cone of the machine. I put a small fuel filter on the end of the now vent line to keep crud from the inside of the vent line. The cannister is as far aft as you can get on the scooter and still be inside the plastic "body". It is behind the battery box. The vacuum switch under the floor board, left side outside of the frame tube, just inside the CVT cooling intake. Test ride showed no "fading" in the engine output but hey! It was always intermittent anyway.

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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2012, 11:49:22 AM »
Karl, how many miles are on your bike so we can start to look for this as a problem?
Thanks for all your input. You have Always been very helpful and we appreciate all you contribute to our successful rides.
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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2012, 02:11:15 PM »
You are very welcome, Cove, just so I am a part of the solution and not a part of the problem! Over 16000 miles.

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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 02:10:03 AM »
Nice info Karl...  ;)

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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 06:52:10 PM »
Tanks, Vivo.

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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »
Thanks for the heads up, Karl!
Not sure if I will have this scooter for that long ;-)
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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 04:26:48 PM »
Belated update: "Fading" occurred again on a 200 mile day trip to Natchez Trace. So I do NOT think it was the vacuum operated "switch" sticking. Check my thread in Tech about the fuel pump. It has a vacuum line to it and Randy said that his BMW has the same thing and works connected or not. Our Service Manual has some pictures and words that hint the vacuum line affects the fuel pressure regulator. Disconnected and plugged both the line and vacuum tap into the manifold and again "fading" seems in remission. Like I said in Tech I will post after a cupla hunnert miles the results.

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Re: Vapor cannister hunt
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 10:41:46 PM »
The vapor canister would usually cause a "stumble" as raw fuel is
dumped into the intake and makes it very rich. The location of the
 canister makes it unlikely that it could be a problem.

 The fuel filter being clogged could do this but Yager doesn't have one
(just a mesh bag on the bottom of the pump). You have lots of miles
and as reported elsewhere Kymco says not to use ethanol. Maybe
something in fuel system has melted and is clogging the lines?

The K75's had a rubber mount for the fuel pump that sometimes turned
 to mush and caused problems.

One other Yager had problems and it was the injector. It was clogged,
they replaced it and was good to go!
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