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Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« on: September 03, 2013, 02:50:41 PM »
Sitting here with a bowl full of bananas (on sale just now @ 36 cents lb) to ease my cramping fingers. No joke.

I used 3M spray adhesive lightly to fix the new black SailRite AllPro 4-Way Stretch vinyl and several thousand of the finest stainless steel 8mm staples.

I pulled and worked this stuff, removed staples and pulled tighter, nope - tighter still, removed staples again, and pulled some more until the center returned a 'middle C' per my Hohner mouth harp.

The SailRite vinyl is the only way to go for DIY'ers, stainless staples should not rust and use good quality purpose made foam for seating purchased on-line from a pro supplier. (see the motorcycle seat web sites for addresses)
The shaping and trial fitting your rump will take awhile - maybe give it more than one day . "Why", you say - well your rump has different moods and you want to get the shape and thickness right before you put on the vinyl.
Trial fitting means put the foam on your scoot, cover it with the old vinyl and 2 bungees and take it for 1/2 hour rides.
SailRite has a pretty good video on recovering a motorcycle seat - showing you how to cut and sew for a pro job.

My wife gave me that look when I asked about her fancy Singer machine - plus I did not like the idea of a seam leaking through in the rain. I ride a lot in the rain. So, my cover is all one piece which - with my hugely rounded seat ends - meant I was going to have folds no matter how I pulled the vinyl. Since I've seen new Vespa seats with some I figured it was something I could live with if kept to a minimum.

My seat height is now some crazy figure - but at 6'3" it is not an issue for me as my heels are still on the ground. My new riding position is further back and higher. Easier to lift my feet onto the floor after stops. Very strange to know that ridge is under there but can't be felt. It's buried in layers of rebond foam covered by blue seating foam.

The men in the Philippine LIKE Club noted that my seat is shaped for a single rider only - no passenger can sit behind me. I built it this way because this scooter is too small for a rider my size to carry a passenger. I'll carry one on my next, bigger scooter.(I'm liking the big wheeled scooters by Kymco, SYM and the Scarabeos)

No seat is perfect for a guy my size (I have trouble on planes and in theatres) but this seat is pretty darn comfy!
I can sit back against the buried & curved rebond foam or slide forward to the big rebond foam head on the front.
 I also built it to be wider, to take the pressure off of the center of my can, and firmed the outer edges to stop from rolling off the sides as I rode.

Do I like the way it changed the profile of my scooter? No, but given the seat pan Kymco presented me with, it is the best I can do, and I have the stock seat in a box if i want to look pretty for half an hour.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2013, 03:00:48 PM by Stig »
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 02:51:35 PM »
Top view of seat.
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 03:21:12 PM »
Stock and SailRite vinyl.
Kymco is on the left - the AllPro 4-Way Stretch is on the right.
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 09:33:40 PM »
You know... it actually looks pretty good!

"Impressive" work my friend.  ;D
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2013, 12:30:59 AM »
First time is the worst time. I think it looks great for your first go at it. Heck, it helps you enjoy the ride, well, isn't that the point.  Great job!
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2013, 01:17:54 AM »
Looking good!  Someday I'll get irritated enough with that ridge to do something about it.  It's not too bad for me now, but every once in a while I think I might like to sit back a bit further.
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 01:19:58 AM »
This time it came out looking pretty good!
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 04:35:01 PM »
thank you Stig,  I have been looking for that vinyl, just ordered one white and one black , to see what looks good on my downtown , should be here by the weekend, 

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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2013, 04:53:11 PM »
   stig. if you are worried about the rain , my downtown came with clear vinyl rap over the foam, in case the seat cover leaked, 

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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2013, 09:12:18 PM »
   stig. if you are worried about the rain , my downtown came with clear vinyl rap over the foam, in case the seat cover leaked, 

I've seen plastic covering the foam on some seats, under the vinyl - but that kinda makes me wonder what that water is growing when it's trapped between the two. As for a plastic cover over the seat when it's raining - well my keister is on the seat when it's raining, or else the scoot is inside (even at work it is parked in a warehouse) - and I don't want to be sliding around on a wet plastic cover. So, no stitching - though it does look very nice if stitched! I've seen some of the Philippine fellows Kymco LIKE's with very handsomely stitched seats. I guess, like Vivo said - there are so many scooters and small motorcycles over there - getting some custom work done like shocks, paint and custom seats is common and inexspensive.
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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion #27
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2013, 01:44:42 AM »
Stitches look good especially with contrasting colors... red on black, gold on black, etc.  If you really have to stitch and are worried about water seeping in, one way is to put silicone glue/sealant on the underside part of the stitched cover in order to seal those tiny holes...

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Re: Stig's Big Guy Seat Conversion
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2013, 12:50:54 AM »
Seat rebuild update---Feels strange, but I like it!
Sitting slightly higher, and further back, no more 'adult on a tricycle' look with the knees as I ride.
THICK seat is pretty nice . Seems easier to balance myself now that I'm off the tricycle.
 Glad I did not use the 'tacky' SailRite vinyl - this non-tacky stuff works great - I do not slide around, unless I want to move at a stop light. I think some scoots do use the 'grip' vinyl on their seats - I've sat on a couple of rough seats.
First week of daily rides and the new seat is working OK for me.
The look is growing on me , a little.
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