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Camping on 2 wheels
« on: April 02, 2014, 11:20:34 AM »
I was requested to write up some info on Minimalist camping on two wheels (scooter/motorcycle) and I have to do a bit of hunting for photos I'd like to include, but I thought I'd give a taste of info.

This is a (currently) 500 page discussion on ADVrider on the exact subject. Lots of excellent info!!

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201349

And other links to a wealth of motorcycle camping info!! Everything from Scooter to 2 wheeled land yachts pulling trailers.  ;D

http://www.motorcyclecampingtips.com/

http://www.ibmc.org/

http://www.motocampers.com/

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Re: Camping on 2 wheels
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 12:57:10 PM »
Camping with your scoot is fun just make sure you do it in a safe and fun way .

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2014, 01:15:11 PM »
I avoid camping in State and National Parks. They're designed for motorhomes..
County and township parks are usually cheap, quiet, and have lots of room, as well as quiet corners where cars/trucks/motorhomes can't get to..

And then there's stealth camping.. Basically setting up at or near dusk, in a hidden or well off the road location, and pulling camp right away in the morning... Basically just for a night of sleep. While I don't recommend trespassing, occasionally it is done.. I know a guy who often sets up in the back of old graveyards if he can do so and be out of sight..
I do my absolute best to ask for permission.  It's kinda scary for residents to have some guy on a motorcycle come up and ask if he can set up a tent in the woods, but with the right attitude I've actually met some great folks that way, and received permission to come back any time!! 
Irrigation ponds are a great place to set up next to, and permission is usually easy to get with a smile and an explanation that you'll be leaving nothing but footprints and a flat spot on the grass from the tent.  :D I carry backpack style cooking gear and usually all I ask is for water to fill my collapsible water container for water to cook (and occasionally wash up) with.

I like leaving a thank you note with my work business card and a $5 bill in the mailbox when I leave. Much cheaper than a campground, and it makes for good relations between the non-riding crowd and those of us who ride.  ;D 

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2014, 01:24:56 PM »
My girlfriend and I go Scamping quite a bit. Most of the gear is considered backpacking gear, small, lightweight. The only luxury item we bring is is a battery operated ceiling fan for the tent. Other than that it's dehydrated food, pocket rocket, inflatable pads. Here's a video we made last summer.

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2014, 02:54:21 PM »
Thanks for the links, Paper ! ;D
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 03:20:48 PM »
Thanks for the links, Paper ! ;D

Happy to help!!

Dolemite, that's a great video!! Looks like you two have a lot of fun Scamping!! I kinda cheat with mine.. My two scooters that I use for camping both have lots of underseat storage, and a top box, and the passenger seat space for a drybag..

So there's all kinds of room to store/strap stuff. :)




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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2014, 08:23:21 PM »
The last time I did any kind of camping i was a kid (young teen), me and a buddy would hit the woods near by our houses on our bikes. We'd pack a 2 person nylon tent, basic camping gear and some snacks and breakfast supplies and head out. We never went more then 1 mile from home but it seemed like light years away.

I'd be too afraid today unless I had a gun packed with me, and having to have a gun doesn't make for a good night when your trying to intruduce younger ones to the activity.
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Re: Camping on 2 wheels
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2014, 10:05:38 PM »
Happy to help!!

Dolemite, that's a great video!! Looks like you two have a lot of fun Scamping!! I kinda cheat with mine.. My two scooters that I use for camping both have lots of underseat storage, and a top box, and the passenger seat space for a drybag..

So there's all kinds of room to store/strap stuff. :)


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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 12:47:28 AM »
 That was a great report, Paper. Also that was a cool video. You guys got me thinking about scamping. Looks like it could be a blast.  I am going to have to look into the campgrounds, as well as the roads available to get past the city.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2014, 04:41:28 AM »
My girlfriend and I go Scamping quite a bit. Most of the gear is considered backpacking gear, small, lightweight. The only luxury item we bring is is a battery operated ceiling fan for the tent. Other than that it's dehydrated food, pocket rocket, inflatable pads. Here's a video we made last summer.


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Re: Camping on 2 wheels
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2014, 03:04:47 PM »
Food and gear to cook it can take up a lot of room. How are you dealing with that?

Love the term "Scamping". I'd like to try some Scamping this summer.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2014, 03:42:16 PM »
I'd never heard "Scamping" before, either.. Excellent term!!

As far as cooking, for me it all depends on the situation. I carry a small pan that is just bigger than my gas canister. I have a small burner that folds up to about the size of a cigarette pack. It's got a self igniter and folds out to hold the pan. I either carry a couple liter bottles of water, or if needed, I have a 2 gallon collapsible water container.

A lot of my camping is done at motorcycle rallies.. At these, they supply water/coffee/soda and many also supply beer, or it's available for purchase. And they also supply a couple big meals and will have rolls and fruit available for breakfast.. Which basically leaves you to find a burger for lunch. :)

I do carry the light cooking gear and at least a liter of water to make coffee or tea in the morning.. Tea is easy, and in my case, so is coffee. I travel for work almost weekly, and I save the coffee packets in the room for the little 3-4 coffee maker.. I just boil water, and dip the sealed coffee packet in the water like making tea.. I make it as strong as I want that way.

As far as food, I will sometimes make soup, but usually I'll find something to warm up over the campfire. If you saw me, you'd realize I could skip a couple meals and survive just fine. :)

Actually, my biggest challenge is comfortable shelter. For years I've carried a small blower that plugs into the bike, and I actually blow up a twin size mattress like you'll find at Walmart, that you'd blow up for a guest staying over. 6" thick, I sleep as well on them as I do anywhere else with plenty of room to move around. I have few 2 or 3 man tents to pick from.. Big Agnes and Eureka are solid tent makers that are very waterproof and secure. Remember you get what you pay for, and while that $30 Walmart tent seems cheap, nothing seems cheap when you're trying to sleep and water is dripping on you. I've been there, and it's not any fun..  :P

For a sleeping bag, I carry a down bag and a fleece bag. It gives me full range of temps to be comfortable in.. You can sleep on top of the down bag with the fleece over you like a blanket, or swap them around for more warmth.. If really cold, you can actually stuff the fleece bag in the sleeping bag for the ultimate in heat retention. I like down sleeping bags because of the ability to compress down to a very small package, yet my down bag is good for 10 degrees. I've woken to frost on my tent and motorcycle and slept like a baby..

Security is always a thought.. At the motorcycle rallies, there's always someone working as security, but I've been going to bike rallies since 1986 and I've never had anything taken.. As a matter of fact, people go out of their way to find the owner of lost stuff... I'm more worried about my stuff getting wet from morning dew than I am about it being stolen.
When I camp in the wilderness, I do carry a weapon, and I pray that I NEVER need to even think about needing it.. I'm mostly carrying it because of a large population of bears, as I camp in the UP of Michigan a great deal.. The only other thing I'd be concerned about is drug users or stumbling into someone doing illegal operations. It's never been a problem and I hope it never is.
If you stick with campgrounds or maybe friend's woods, it's not going to be an issue..

And as I mentioned, I go to motorcycle rallies.. Here's one of my favorites, and they have hundreds of photos from many years of this rally in SW Wisconsin..  http://wmgr.org/
Well, when you're camping among other people, you're either going to have noise from people sitting and chatting around campfires, or people waking up before you and talking or leaving on their scooter/motorcycle.. So, I recommend finding earplugs that are very comfortable!!  8) That way, the only person who can't sleep is the guy in the next tent who can't sleep because of your snoring!!! ;D

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 04:11:15 PM »
Here's a little camping story I love to share..
I was meeting a group of friends in Bayfield, WI and decided to camp the night before meeting them.. I have a favorite little campground just south of Escanaba, MI in Fox township.. Its camping right on Lake Michigan, and it's just a great place to relax..

Anyway, I rode in and grabbed a self registration form, when I younger kid on a bicycle rode up, looked me over and asked if I was camping?? I told him that I was.. He asked "Where's your stuff??" "Are you just sleeping on the ground or something?" I laughed, and I knew what he was getting at.. I was riding my KLR650 and there was nothing visible on the outside of the bike.. All my gear was in my saddlebags/topbox/tank panniers/tankbag.. I told him all my stuff was in my bike.. He didn't believe me, and was very confused because he didn't see how I could have a tent and full gear and not see any of it..
I laughed and told him to come back in 10 minutes..

He came back with his Dad, and both of them just sat there.. The kid looked at my tent, air mattress, sleeping bags, cooking gear, and I told him I had clothes for another 4 days of riding. The kid then said that they had brought a truck AND A TRAILER to go camping, and they didn't have air mattresses!! :)
We sat on the table and talked about it and the kid said he couldn't wait to get his motorcycle license so he could go wander, too.





Later a couple set up in the next camping spot, and in the morning they were very nice and asked me over to have coffee. I told them thank you and I brought over the coffee I had already made.. :) She said "Where did you get that!!" and I pointed at the little stove on the picnic table .. We chatted for a while and then I packed everything up.. When I got done, all I left to do was toss on my jacket/helmet/gloves as I was already wearing my Aerostich pants.. They said they couldn't believe I had room for all that gear on the bike, yet nothing was visible!!

I told them the same as the kid and father the day before, years of experience pays off, and figuring out what you can live without helps, too.. :)

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 05:16:21 PM »
I've got a county park with camping just 6 miles from my house. I plan on doing a couple test runs this summer. Being that close to home will allow me some convenience in case I need something. I'll know what I need and what I don't hopefully. Of course I can always even pretend in the back yard. Go on a 20 mile ride and come back to the back yard and setup.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 02:08:21 AM »
I miss my U.P.  :'(

I have a smal LL Bean tent (we have a discount outlet near us ) ,use a packable stove,Small packable cups/plates/Sporks,etc. Mattress is a self-inflating . I will try to find nearby convenience stores as a resource for perishibles/ice,etc.(small collapsible coolers pack dishes and whatever else they willl hold,then can keep eggs,bacon,milk,etc. cool ).Use tha saddlebags,top case and underseat for much stuff, tunnel bag has room for (more) small stuff (already hold rain gear) .Found some waterproof/rolltop bakpack/duffel bags  and other drybags for passenger seat. Of course, two bikes carry even more. Keep the handgun locked under seat when traveling ( for remote/questionable areas ) .


Paper, there is a Bike Week in Muskegon,MI ( in July) that is growing every year (put on by their Harley Shop) . Would love to Camp Pictured Rocks Nat'l Lakeshore in U.P. - just don't know how to pack the kayak for paddling/fishing ( Old Town Dirigo Angler version ) .Can you help me with transporting that ?  :o
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