700 ergonomics

[Porkie]

Is the 700 more cramped than my 500? They look the same on Kymco's site but I've never seen one in person.

Sam:)

[sissy mary]

Yes, I am 5'9-170 lbs or so, and I can not ride it. Cramped, seat slopes forward, can't stretch legs. Handle bars way to close for me. Sad, but big BMW's are way to tall, can only touch ground with 1 foot (barley with 1 foot that is). And big 650 burger (650 burgman), cost way to much, and is over 600 lbs. I guess I will have to stay with my xciting 500. Breaks my heart.

[MJR]

Sad, but big BMW's are way to tall, can only touch ground with 1 foot (barley with 1 foot that is). And big 650 burger (650 burgman), cost way to much, and is over 600 lbs.

Can't do much about the weight or seat height but the Burgy is a great deal used often being sold with low mileage for $2,500-$5,000 depending on year/model some being better than others.

[BettinANDlosing]

I'm 6'2" and the myroad is not cramped at all, I could go all day on it.

[sissy mary]

What I meant about the 650 burger being to costly is that I would only purchase a 2013 year model year and up, because of the fact that they did some updates and the new models get 15% better gas mileage. So I would be looking at $10,000 easy out the door for even a used 2013. As for the 700 being cramped for me? All I can say to the 6'2 fellow is (you must have never ridden an Xciting 500)? Once you have stretched out on a 500, the 700 feels very cramped. Same as I feel on a honda silverwing, Yamaha majesty etc. The 650 burger fits me perfect, the 400 burgers seat is to low for long rides, and the majesty & silverwings back rest set me to far forward.

[MJR]

What I meant about the 650 burger being to costly is that I would only purchase a 2013 year model year and up, because of the fact that they did some updates and the new models get 15% better gas mileage. So I would be looking at $10,000 easy out the door for even a used 2013.

Not sure where your located but a quick search on Cycle Trader shows lots of 2013's new in the range of $8,000-$9,,000. I gathered from a local Kymco dealer that the 700 cost them somewhere around $7,600. I would really like to try one out.

[sissy mary]

Phoenix AZ. Out the door with our sales tax, doc fee's etc, I'm looking at 10,000. easy. Scoot over in Tucson AZ has/had a demo 700. I have seen left over 2013-14 xciting 500's for az low as 5,200. That's more in my price range.            

[MJR]

It sounds like being concerned with weight of the bike maybe the 500 is good for you. The 700 and Burgy 650 are heavy that's for sure. Doesn't look to be a lot on Cycle Trader in your area, best I found was a used Burgy 650 for $3,999 with unknown mileage but they are not cheap to fix should you have an issue with the CVT. The 700 seems to have a CVT that would be less expensive for belt replacement.

[sissy mary]

Yes, I saw on a forum a few years ago someone said he payed $1,200 to have his cvt/belt fixed? I have no idea if he needed just a belt? Or if he had some other major issue with the tran's/cvt? 

[SgtShak]

I have owned three 650 Burgmans.  I jumped at the opportunity to by a '13 after reading about all of the updates to it.  I HATED IT!  Yes it pushed around easier but I didn't notice much of a MPG change.  That change in the gearing made it so you basically had to keep it in POWER mode for around town riding which "killed" any extra MPG and put you back into that neck snapping engine braking.  If you were not in power mode, the scoot constantly felt like it was in a gear too high.  IMO I didn't like the new pointier front end and the relocation of the parking brake was awkward. It is a heavy bike while standing still, but I never had a problem balancing at any speed.....especially at near stops.  I was very sorry that I got rid of my 2011.  If I ever go back into the market for another maxi-scoot I would definitely explore the BMW.  Second hand pricing must be nice because I know I lost a lot when I got rid of it.  That was another thing I didn't like about it......The immediate HUGE depreciation made me think twice.   

[Porkie]

The 650 Burgman's CVT belt is a "lifetime" belt according to the factory and it is a non maintenance item. Being a LONG time member of the Burgman forum, if I remember correctly, the belts were lasting more than 100,000 miles-some less, some more. The CVT belt is constructed more heavy duty like the ones in CVT cars. It is expensive and time consuming to replace but so is a new belt @ 10 to 15,000 miles, on most scoots, if done by a dealer.

The Burgman is the absolute Cadillac or RV of the scooter world and does most everything right!

The T-max 500 is the absolute Corvette or Mustang of the scooter world and handles like a well set up Sportbike.

My Xciting 500 is somewhere in between:)

Sam:)

[MJR]

The 650 Burgman's CVT belt is a "lifetime" belt according to the factory and it is a non maintenance item. Being a LONG time member of the Burgman forum, if I remember correctly, the belts were lasting more than 100,000 miles-some less, some more. The CVT belt is constructed more heavy duty like the ones in CVT cars. It is expensive and time consuming to replace but so is a new belt @ 10 to 15,000 miles, on most scoots, if done by a dealer.

We had lots of discussion on the drive belt back in the day. True Suzuki doesn't have a recommendation on belt replacement but they don't last for ever. I think most Burgman owners (or most any other scooter likely generally to ride it that much based on used ones for sale) aren't likely to ride/own them long enough to where the belt fails. My personal feeling is that they would need a belt between 50K and 75K mi which in a normal weighted CVT would had several belts and other items replaced by then. It is quite a bit easier to change something like a belt on a weighted CVT in most scooters though.

Most car CVT's use a steel belt in a oil bath.