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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2014, 06:20:17 PM »
Generally speaking if it wobbles at 60+ and not below its tires, thats on a car, truck, scooter, motorcycle, or mattel hot wheel.
Honestly 250cc is the bare minimum for highway, I have many bikes and I no longer ride anything below 600cc on the highway. With that said though I dont believe you shouldnt be on the highway either. I use to ride my heavily modified ke100s for 45 miles both ways on highway 44 to 270 to 30 here locally on the regular to one of my properties, it was going on 11 years strong. If a 1979 rotary valve 108cc AC enduro can do it safely a new 250cc water cooled scooter sure can. Although, I no longer ride my small bikes due to being blown over a whole lane on my klr250 when a 18 wheeler blew past me doing 80 MPH+ on a 60 MPH road, (idiots cant do the speed limit).  After that I vowed to never ride anything under powered. You need that reserve power to pull you out of a head wind.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2014, 09:53:58 PM »
So something I noticed today was that when I compress the front shocks there's a low pitch creak / groan. It sounds like it might be relevant.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 10:12:33 PM »
The older people have a horrible problem with induced shaking.
You DO understand that this is a scooter forum , and that a lot of scooter riders are - shall we say, approaching veteran peopledom.
It is more polite to pretend you don't see older people shaking....
So let's not make such a big deal about this and just stick to the scooter'in issues!
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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2014, 12:09:13 AM »
"Your tired eyes failed to see what your feeble mind failed to comprehend. We are all running a race against time.
Some of us are just closer to the finish line." Nelson Mandella

Shakey old people make me laugh, and it's easy to steal their candy.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2014, 02:01:20 AM »
I am not tha t shakky,  I am vibrant,  81 and still hanging in there,.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2014, 07:04:28 PM »
Check your tires carefully.

I bought a used 2009 SYM HD200 a few months ago.  It only had 1800 miles on it looked good overall and the tires still had a lot of tread so I never took a real good look at them.

The scooter ran fine without any problems but when I took it on the freeway, the handling felt a little spooky.  It was like the bike would move laterally on it's own without any input from me. 

I decided to inspect my tires one day because I was bored and I found that there was a crack that ran parallel with the bead and the crack was around the whole tire, on both sides.  My rear tire wasn't as bad but there was a big gouge in the sidewall.

I stopped riding the scooter and promptly ordered new tires and the problem went away.

In hindsight, I can't believe I risked my life like that.  My tire could have failed on me at 70 mph.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2014, 05:17:41 AM »
I spent good money on great tires cause I don't want to die for a lousey 150.00.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2014, 06:41:37 AM »
... I've rode if you let go and coast no hands wobble violently after just a second or so no hands. ...

This is how it is and has always been on my 2005 GV250.  I also had the issue but very mild on my 1992 BMW K75s.  The solution was to properly shim the forks.  That is the only way to eliminate the problem.  It is not tire brand, or mixing brands or wear.

The test for fork alignment is simple.  Unbolt and remove the front axle.  If it is difficult to remove and reinstall the fork tubes are bent slightly.  This is how it is on my GV250.  The problem cannot be solved like the bmw because there is no way to shim the forks.  An adjustable brace would need to be installed to correct the alignment. 
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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2014, 06:43:52 AM »
feels kind of shaky, like I'm being oscillated side to side, and perhaps like my handlebars are oscillating a bit. ...

Totally normal.  Even my bmw motorcycle did this and it weighed 550 lbs.  A windshield and cross winds increase the effect and if you pass a large truck on the highway.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2014, 06:44:40 AM »
No one caught what he said... The rear wheel is slowing at a point in the rotation... It's a bent rear out put shaft.

Remove the rear brake caliper and the problem will go away.  My scoot does the same thing.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2014, 05:44:37 AM »
I don't think removing brakes should be recommended. It could be a warped rotor or a bent output shaft but blowing up the sun so you can sleep during the day is not really a fix.

I respect you Bois, and love how much you help. Perhaps you forgot to post the rest... Check the rotor for run out.
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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2014, 01:54:21 AM »
After much frustration, I'm mostly through with the tire change. I only noticed one thing wrong with it, which is that the front wheel bearing is occasionally slowing / making a pinging sound when you turn it by hand. So I'm thinking that's bad.

I think it's also getting in the way of balancing the front tire. As far as I can tell, the "heavy" spot is changing, I'm guessing related to the bearing as well.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2014, 01:55:08 AM »
Oh, and some of the bolts were a tad loose maybe. But I'm going with the bearing causing my problems.

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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2014, 05:02:40 AM »
If the bearing is sort of pinching, and stopping at random spots it is surely about to fail catastrophically. Be happy you found it.
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Re: How is it supposed to feel at high speeds?
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2014, 05:34:58 AM »
About to fail catastrophically meaning that I shouldn't be riding it at all until it's replaced, or that I should just replace it within the next couple of weeks? I ask because this is my only means of transportation.

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