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Chris0381

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2014, 12:39:08 AM »
ia the variator locking tool neccessary?

Not always, you can use an impact wrench, but it would be nice to have something under your seat to be able to do a belt repair out in the boonies. But for someone who doesn't have the feel for an impact wrench, a holding tool with a torque wrench and a drop of loctite gives some POM that you've done the job right.

I have a feeling the clutch nut is factory sealed with gobs of loctite and torqued on quite hard. Not sure about the variator as the shop I bought the bike from may have repalced the boss with a smooth boss and loosened the nut up for me or overtorqued it with an impact wrench.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 12:47:28 AM by Chris0381 »
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2014, 02:13:21 AM »
I've never encountered LokTite on a factory installed CVT part. They are all single use "Captive Nuts", and designed to self lok.
Either purchase a pocket full of them or use a drop of Blue Lok-Tite. I have had a few Var nuts spin off if I didn't use either one or the other. The clutch bell is more secure due to the larger surface area of the splines.
Var pulley 1/2's can strip the small spline area, and spin off under De-accell
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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2014, 02:05:13 PM »
any chance you could post a video of you removing your var/clutch?

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2014, 02:28:05 PM »
any chance you could post a video of you removing your var/clutch?

All the parts are in, I just dont have the right tools yet. I may be able to do a video, we'll see. It may be 2-3 weeks before I get the variator tool. After all this acing Planet still hasn't shipped the jets I ordered 2+ weeks ago and the jets from Ebay just came after 3 days.

I may be able to rejet #87 today and install a power adapter for USB ports once the storms pass thru.

I don't have to replace the V-notches with new sliders do I ?
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 02:30:03 PM by Chris0381 »
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2014, 04:00:06 PM »
I thought the variator tool wasnt necessary?

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2014, 04:10:00 PM »
I thought the variator tool wasnt necessary?

I dont have an impact wrench.
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2014, 05:23:33 PM »


You don't always have to replace the little "V" slides. Just make sure they are not worn thru. I order those by the dozen from parts for scooters. They are kind of everywhere around my shop/house.
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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2014, 08:27:52 PM »
I've also found a crude but effective way of removing the Big clutch nut is using a flathead screwdriver and you can pound in counter clockwise. Usually I have a vice handle and just vice w/ adjustable pliers works great.
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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2014, 10:17:58 PM »
I bought the big socket for the 1/2" impact. It takes about ten minutes to swap rollers, and the contra spring.
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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2014, 02:00:04 AM »
Yeah I need to get me one of those big ole sockets.
2002 Kymco B&W 300; MRP 78MM "300CC", Naraku cam, Yoshimura rS3 exhaust, 17g Sliders, Yellow torque spring drilled airbox, stock carb #115 main #40 pj.

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2014, 03:42:46 AM »
EbayI bought a big Matco 4 socket set for 27.00. The largest of the set is the one that fit. 27mm i THINK.
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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2014, 01:15:21 PM »
Ill probably got to HF and get a 15" Pittsburgh Steel adjustable and give this a try.

2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2014, 01:33:37 PM »
As the torque is amplified the bike climbs better. As the bike climbs better your smile gets bigger. As your smile gets bigger you look more like a retard driving a scooter, and smiling for no damn good reason. Then you realize I made you retarded.

Hope that helps

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2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2014, 04:06:35 PM »
Tomorrow I will be posting pictures and instructions of rejetting, exhaust mod, contra spring change, DP slider change in the "technical how to" section of the forum for those who have no clue how to do these.

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Re: Increasing performance on 2012 super 8
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2014, 11:00:26 PM »
Not sure what I did but I picked up 2 MPH today. Im about 42 now on the flats, I down jetted from 86 to 85 and opened the airscrew 1/2 turn. Was doing 40 MPH up slight upgrade.
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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