Is derestricting CDI safe for the motor ??

[zukinjo]

Anyone have any ideas on how to derestrict the newer Agility 50? Mine is 2013 model and it doesn't have a wire, I cut the CDI really deeply and no wire... 
I bought a CDI from ebay for 4T 50cc scooters but my scooter won't start with it... 

[zombie]

The new Agility's don't have the CDI restriction but the one you got from Ebay might have a better timing curve. Can you post a pict of what you bought? or a link to it?

Which CDI does your bike have... The one w/ two connectors or one?

[zukinjo]

Zombie, I've bought the one you recommended. It has two connectors, one 4 pin and one 2 pin. Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Performance-6-pin-CDI-Racing-Box-Ignition-Coil-For-GY6-Moped-Scooter-50CC-150CC-/360654302083?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53f8abeb83&vxp=mtr
And mine has the same two connectors (picture not great, but you can see them at the top):


I can connect both connectors easily, but the scooter simply won't start.

This cut at the CDI was actually done by the dealer when they derestricted it. The funny thing is that the original variator boss did not have a groove (limiter) on it, the dealer installed exactly the same one and I have the original but they are the same.
So, the same boss, no CDI restriction on the new Agility's... How do they restrict them then?! 
The dealer statement says it went 37 mph before and 43 after. With me on it, it goes barely 40...

[zombie]

Oooooppppsss! My bad... The cdi I linked is actually for the AC fired stator in the GY 6 engines. Your Kymco has a DC fired stator.  I didn't read down the description, and you wouldn't have known to look for that.

I'll go over the options w/ you, and you can decide where to go next.
Option 1: See if the seller will allow you to return/exchange the cdi alone. 3-4 bucks shipping, and done.
Option 2: You can buy an AC stator/rectifiermade for the GY 6 engine, and swap out the stator/rectifier. About 35 bucks but the advantage is your bike will always start, and run with a dead or missing battery. The DC fired CDI's can not start/run a bike w/ no battery.
Option 3: I will buy the AC cdi from you and you can get the proper DC cdi for the bike.

Whichever route you want to take I will work w/ you to get it right.

The 40 MPH is normal for the bike. The next steps to improving that are a performance Var/rollers/contra spring.
After that a larger carb  45 mph
after that a better exhaust 50 MPH
after that a cylinder kit 55+  MPH

[MoToFaLcon]

QUOTE FROM DUDE ABOVE:  How do they restrict them then?! 
The dealer statement says it went 37 mph before and 43 after. With me on it, it goes barely 40...
[/quote]        I have a 2013 a50 and if yours truly hits 40mph, its derestricted. Mine is still restricted via cdi still, i get 28mph (gps) and 33mph on the inaccurate speedo. Dealer told me everything on it is derestricted and also has a bigger jet, just need a high performance cdi and should be able to hit 42mph. But i dont know where to get a high performance cdi for a 2013 that fits or if i can cut the wire so its 28mph for now.  I'm not 100% sure what to do so.....

[zombie]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GY6-DC-CDI-BOX-50cc-150cc-250cc-MOPED-SCOOTER-ATV-4-2-PINS-CHINESE-/121441208299?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c4675c7eb&vxp=mtr

That is the correct CDi for the Kymco Agility

[MoToFaLcon]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GY6-DC-CDI-BOX-50cc-150cc-250cc-MOPED-SCOOTER-ATV-4-2-PINS-CHINESE-/121441208299?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c4675c7eb&vxp=mtr

That is the correct CDi for the Kymco Agility

So this cdi has a higher timing curve? If i bought this, would i go faster? 28mph sux, 39mph would be great!  I dont get it, if theres no cdi rev limit/restriction, why cant i get past 28mph even on a very steep hill?

[BettinANDlosing]

So this cdi has a higher timing curve? If i bought this, would i go faster? 28mph sux, 39mph would be great!  I dont get it, if theres no cdi rev limit/restriction, why cant i get past 28mph even on a very steep hill?

Have you done the other restrictions? Jet, boss etc?

[MoToFaLcon]

Have you done the other restrictions? Jet, boss etc?

For $50, the dealer said they did, which makes me wonder if they f'd something up. They said cdi was all that was left. Guess imma hafta call em up, maybe they have my purchase on record or remember me.

[zombie]

Have them check for the smooth boss/82 jet. That is the de-restriction kit.

Also check your belt. It SHOULD be a Bando brand. Anything else is after market, and most likely the wrong size.

[MoToFaLcon]

Have them check for the smooth boss/82 jet. That is the de-restriction kit.

Also check your belt. It SHOULD be a Bando brand. Anything else is after market, and most likely the wrong size.

Ok, will do. I took cvt cover off once b4, i'm 60% sure it wasnt a bando. Or maybe it was? All i saw were sum numbers i believe and black dust. But yea will do. If i could hit 35mph gps, id b happy!

[zombie]

Check out these few things, and post back. We can start from the begining just like I would w/ a junker bike. Compression test/ adjust the valves/tune up CVT/ set up carb/air/fuel filters... ect

[zukinjo]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GY6-DC-CDI-BOX-50cc-150cc-250cc-MOPED-SCOOTER-ATV-4-2-PINS-CHINESE-/121441208299?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c4675c7eb&vxp=mtr

That is the correct CDi for the Kymco Agility

Ok, this CDI is very cheap, but it is probably not a "performance" CDI, right? I mean, if ours 2013 AG50's have a derestricted CDI , will this one make any difference?

[zombie]

Sutai is the only company I know of that builds in that rev limiter. That CDI linked is a China copy of the Sutai so I do not believe it will be limited. While it may not be a performance cdi it will act the same as the unlimited CDI.

You do have a point there... With yours being de restricted, there will be no advantage to swapping yours for that one,

I got confused on the year of your bike.

[AgileWhitey]

I was having the same issue when i purchased my A50... The dealer ended up selling me a CDI for a A125. Worked out great for me. So if my dealer was correct on the part was they sold me that may be your route to go!!

After the drive boss, the jet and the CDI I was running roughly 43 MPH on the gps.

Hope this helps!