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SeanOaloha

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change in idle while holding brake in
« on: November 06, 2009, 02:11:54 AM »
I was wondering if you guys out there with the newer agility 50cc's do you ever hear and feel a change in idle when you press the brake at a stop? I get a pretty substancial change, does that mean that my idle needs to be adjusted?? The idle is a little high right away in the morning but I warm it up until the idle speed goes down on its own, then the idle sounds sweet.
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 02:56:01 AM »
I'm assuming that the drops?  That's probably due to the extra power draw to turn on your brake lights.  I notice that on my zx50 occasionally.  It probably doesn't need to be adjusted unless the motor dies as a result. 
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 05:06:53 AM »
Mine actually seems to pick up or get stronger feeling and sounding, not higher rev but louder!!
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 05:17:40 AM »
That's interesting!  I don't have any ideas for that one! ???
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 11:47:39 AM »
...wow...i'm in the dark...
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 04:43:12 PM »
From the way you explain that, I would suggest you are adding more SOLID MASS to the frame when you apply the brake. The tire /wheel are basicly floating untill the brake pads make a mechanical bond to the rest of the frame. I think you are simply getting a different resonation due to more mass...
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 06:03:43 PM »
Quote from: zombie on November 06, 2009, 04:43:12 PM
From the way you explain that, I would suggest you are adding more SOLID MASS to the frame when you apply the brake. The tire /wheel are basicly floating untill the brake pads make a mechanical bond to the rest of the frame. I think you are simply getting a different resonation due to more mass...

...dang...pulled that one out your ass, didn't y' zombie... ;D
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 06:58:31 PM »
I have a super 8 150 and noticed this also but only when I brake with the left brake. I tried each one separate and it only happens on the left (rear) brake while stopped at a light/stop sign.

My thought was since you need to hold the left brake when starting and it has an automatic choke, it is this automatic choke that I notice. What do you think?
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 08:06:07 PM »
Quote from: jmccoach on November 06, 2009, 06:58:31 PM
I have a super 8 150 and noticed this also but only when I brake with the left brake. I tried each one separate and it only happens on the left (rear) brake while stopped at a light/stop sign.

My thought was since you need to hold the left brake when starting and it has an automatic choke, it is this automatic choke that I notice. What do you think?

..the A50 has the Auto-bystarter, but once everything is warmed up, it shouldn't come into play...

..wonder if the brakelight wiring is crossed up whith the A/B wiring....
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 08:32:57 PM »
Still thinking it's a MASS deal... If it were the choke on a warm engine at idle I'm sure it would stall
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 08:37:15 PM »
..yeah, you're probably right...say, are you catholic??..

..all this preachin' about MASS...

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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2009, 09:25:44 PM »
Could it be that the noise you left behind is finally catching up to you  ;D ?
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2009, 09:26:52 PM »
Quote from: codger78 on November 06, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
Could it be that the noise you left behind is finally catching up to you  ;D ?

....lmfao.... ;D :D :) :o ;D
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 10:46:25 PM »
Axy got me into touching the screen... Can I get an AAAAMMMMEEEENNNN. Just another thought, Maybe the rubber engine mounts (isolaters) are worn. This may decrease the spiritual aspect. Still like the mass idea.
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Re: change in idle while holding brake in
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 10:47:32 PM »
..i dunno..i think itsa new scoot...
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