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Chris0381

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2015, 11:02:47 AM »
I just threw in a #90 jet to my setup and I like the performance so far. Scooter seems to have a bit more pull and no bogging. Ill keep it in and check the plug for fouling in a weeks time.
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2015, 12:29:23 AM »
I just threw in a #90 jet to my setup and I like the performance so far. Scooter seems to have a bit more pull and no bogging. Ill keep it in and check the plug for fouling in a weeks time.

Nice, let me know what you find!   I haven't updated anyone in a while, but I finally got the 6 gram Dr. Pulley sliders in and it's perfectly balanced.  I had the 5 gram sliders, but it was too light.
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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2015, 10:56:54 AM »
You have a real nice simple recipe there w/o having to do a BBK.

Looks like its working well.




« Last Edit: May 18, 2015, 10:59:17 AM by Chris0381 »
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2015, 04:43:37 PM »
You have a real nice simple recipe there w/o having to do a BBK.

Looks like its working well.

Thanks Chris.  I should be satisfied for a while before I get the itch to do anything else.  The only think I can think of is a BBK w/ a bigger carb down the line, but I'm happy the way it is.
2013 Kymco Super 8 50 2T
- Malossi 70cc BBK
- Dellorto Malossi 19mm Carb jetted to 105
- Technigas Next R Exhaust
- Malossi Blue Clutch Springs/Purple Contra Spring
- Modified Stock air box - UNI Filter/Holes
- Top Racing Variator w/ 5 gram Dr. Pulley Sliders
- Unreal Low End/50mph top end

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2015, 05:44:19 PM »
I dont know if I would want to run 50 MPH on the flats, I'd like the power for the hills but when I am at 44-45 MPH down some straight hills, I feel the bike frame and suspension near its limit of safety.

I do run my tires 35 PSI rear and 30 PSI front (a little over inflated).
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2015, 02:44:07 AM »
I don't know much since I've only owned one of these for 2 weeks but isn't the frame & suspension the same as the Super 8 150? That does 50+ out of the box doesn't it?

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2015, 10:24:54 AM »
The 50cc has one shock and the higher cc's have 2 shocks. 2 shocks vs 1 shock can make a difference hitting dippy surfaces, a piece of debris or pot hole at 50 mph. I notice at about 42 MPH oscillations and vibrations start to set in. I can almost know when Im doing 40 MPH without looking at the speedometer.

Probably all fine if road surfaces are perfectly smooth and flat.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Suspension.html

Any procedures to show how to add a second shock ?






« Last Edit: May 19, 2015, 10:30:52 AM by Chris0381 »
2013 Super 8 50cc 2T Air Cooled Mfg'd 2012
Stock pipe derestriction
Smooth Boss
6.5gm Dr Pulley sliders
Malossi Torsion Controller
Malossi Fly Clutch- yellow springs
Polini Variator
#95 Main Jet
Purple Malossi Contra Spring
42 MPH on the flats with the wind

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2015, 06:09:29 AM »
The 50cc has one shock and the higher cc's have 2 shocks. 2 shocks vs 1 shock can make a difference hitting dippy surfaces, a piece of debris or pot hole at 50 mph. I notice at about 42 MPH oscillations and vibrations start to set in. I can almost know when Im doing 40 MPH without looking at the speedometer.

Probably all fine if road surfaces are perfectly smooth and flat.

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Suspension.html

Any procedures to show how to add a second shock ?

I know the feeling. I'm used to it now and dont really mind it. I'm doing 40 to 45 and hitting the limit on the speedo (50) down some hills. At first it really scared me but the more I ride it the more comfortable I've become. The only time its given me pause is down hill with the speedo maxed and the engine sounding like it's doing 10k rpm. That's when I slow down...
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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2015, 05:58:26 PM »
FWIW I just was at the dealer having some minor warranty work done and I was checking out a new Super 8 150 they had on the showroom floor. One shock, just like my 50.

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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2015, 04:47:57 AM »
FWIW I just was at the dealer having some minor warranty work done and I was checking out a new Super 8 150 they had on the showroom floor. One shock, just like my 50.

I saw a beauty just the other day. Super 8 150cc X edition.

Maybe it's the Super 9's that are dual shock.
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Re: 2013 Kymco Super 8 50 - 86 vs 90 jet and Mod questions
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2015, 07:39:44 AM »
I saw a beauty just the other day. Super 8 150cc X edition.

Maybe it's the Super 9's that are dual shock.

The old super 8 150 have dual socks. The new Super 8 is closer to an agility.
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