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problems with electric starter
« on: May 04, 2015, 06:50:32 PM »
Hi, i stored my scoot in the garage for the winter but would start it every couple of weeks.  Now, it runs ok but it won't start by pushing the button. I have to use the kick start.

I have 2 questions:

1) any idea on what it could be?
2) when i use the kick start, should i twist the throttle, giving it gas?

thanks!

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2015, 07:00:43 PM »
Was the battery on a trickle charger? Simply starting up every week won't keep the battery charged up, most likely will kill it faster. When you kick start, you need to give it the same amount of throttle you normally do with the electric starter, usually it needs a little.
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 07:06:22 PM »
My old Genuine Buddy 50 did something similar. It would crank but not start. Seemed like the battery was fine. I rode every day and the scooter was 4 months old. The battery went foul. New battery fixed it.

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 07:25:34 PM »
betting and losing, no it wasn't on a trickle charger.  is there something i can do to charge it or should i buy a new one?

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2015, 08:13:23 PM »
betting and losing, no it wasn't on a trickle charger.  is there something i can do to charge it or should i buy a new one?

Do you get any horn or blinkers with the key on? If not, then it is totally dead and past being able to get charged. If you do get a new battery, make the investment of a trickle or "float" charger so you don't kill batteries in the winter.
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2015, 10:13:33 PM »
I turned the key and the flashers worked.
I pushed the start button to try starting it and it started.
I let it run for 15 secs then turned it off.
I tried to start with the button again and it kinda felt like it was going to turn but didn't.
Now the flashers work but it won't start with the button.

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 12:38:17 AM »
I turned the key and the flashers worked.
I pushed the start button to try starting it and it started.
I let it run for 15 secs then turned it off.
I tried to start with the button again and it kinda felt like it was going to turn but didn't.
Now the flashers work but it won't start with the button.

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Your battery is pooped out - the Latin for your issue.
If funds permit > pop a good Yuasa battery in there & buy a trickle charger to watch over things.
If funds do not permit a new battery - you got nothing to lose by buying a trickle charger and giving it a try overnight.
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 08:26:09 AM »
TIME FOR A NEW BATTERY
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2015, 02:54:58 PM »
I was working on my bike and forgot the key was on. After putting it back together, I had the same issue. Kick started it, let it run a bit, then all is back to normal.

Get a real good battery. The battery is the like the heart of any motor vehicle system. Never go cheap on a battery for any MV. Get the best you can.

Also change that plug every season.
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2015, 01:35:56 PM »
thanks guys, after riding it a bit, it now starts with the button.  After learning how to use the kick start, I don't mind using that but I will look into a new battery. thanks to everyone for your help.

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2015, 02:28:10 PM »
thanks guys, after riding it a bit, it now starts with the button.  After learning how to use the kick start, I don't mind using that but I will look into a new battery. thanks to everyone for your help.


New Battery sounds great. I leave my scoot on the Deltran Battery Tender Jr. "all of the time" I have my original Kymco (Yuasa) battery & it will last 5+ years doing this. If you're looking for a decent replacement then checkout Scorpion batteries. What Kymco scoot do you own? Buying a battery tender is so worth the coin! Trust me, they pay for themselves very quickly. See my link above.     
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 12:37:05 PM »
thanks guys, after riding it a bit, it now starts with the button.  After learning how to use the kick start, I don't mind using that but I will look into a new battery. thanks to everyone for your help.
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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2015, 01:11:51 PM »
hehe oops, now the kick start doesn't do anything either.  When i crank the kick starter in the dark i can see the lights in the dash barely come on for a split second but nothing else happens, would a completely dead battery do that?

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Re: problems with electric starter
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2015, 01:16:01 PM »
I was working on my bike and forgot the key was on. After putting it back together, I had the same issue. Kick started it, let it run a bit, then all is back to normal.

Get a real good battery. The battery is the like the heart of any motor vehicle system. Never go cheap on a battery for any MV. Get the best you can.

Also change that plug every season.

thanks for your input chris, can you link me to a good battery?

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