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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 07:44:36 PM »
OK, after waiting four weeks for new rollers we put in a set of 26 gram Dr. Pulleys. The shudder has gone away and the bike is much smoother at low speed. The trade off is the bike is geared noticeably lower at all speeds. I rarely have an opportunity to cruise at greater than about 100 kph in this country, however, so it's not the problem it would be for a U.S. commuter. Typical highway cruising speeds are between 70 and 90 kph, which has the bike between 5000 and 6000 rpm. 100 kph was around 5500 rpm with the factory rollers, but the shudder and vibe at 2500 to 3000 rpm was alarming. The jump from the factory rollers to 26 grams is a big difference. I would have chosen a 28 or 30 gram set if I'd had a choice, but I couldn't find one.

To substitute for the special tool to hold the pully we fashioned a steel ring with two bolts welded to it in the right positions and used a chain vicegrip to hold it still. We probably could have just put the chain around the pulley, but we didn't want to take a chance of bending or banging up the aluminum cooling fins on the pulley. 

Thanks for all the suggestions. If anyone knows a source for 28 or 30 gram Dr. Pulley sliders for the 500 I'd probably buy a set and try them.

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2010, 02:58:15 AM »
..made this to help disassemble my clutch...

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2010, 03:04:47 AM »
That's pretty cool!

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2010, 03:11:26 AM »
...it works well...

..to hold the clutch bell i just drilled a cpl of holes with the correct spacing, in a 18" length of 1" square tubing, fastened a cpl bolts in the holes..

..stick the bolts into the clutch bell holes...

..just let the tubing rest against the floor, and remove the retaining nut with a socket and ratchet...
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2010, 03:15:43 AM »
Way cool! If you would like to build another one I would seriously like to buy one from you!
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2010, 03:18:50 AM »
Way cool! If you would like to build another one I would seriously like to buy one from you!

...i'll make you one for nothing...is your clutch the same as mine?
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2010, 03:37:09 AM »
That tool will certainly work. I want to pay you for one. It may create a feeding frenzy for the Clutch Slinger... I'll Email you tomorrow to set it up if that is ok w/ you! Just a Damm good idea
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2010, 03:38:12 AM »
...sure man...hit me up!
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2010, 03:52:57 PM »
drilled holes on my clutch bell. now rides smoother when taking off.

BTW installed Dr. Pulley slidders but having problem with it, after  high speed runs they tend to role. installed 31G

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2010, 06:23:01 PM »
I still don't understand how the holes help! Is it a resonance thing?
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2010, 06:25:48 PM »
I still don't understand how the holes help! Is it a resonance thing?

..i was just marinatin' on that m'seff...
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2010, 06:43:19 PM »
...hope that you de-burred the inside edges of those holes....

...could be that they're grinding away at your pads....

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2010, 06:44:53 PM »
There are clutch bells with holes already in them.  They are supposed to cool better.  It seems they may also give better "bite", and allow a build up of the pad material dust a place to go.  Nice job drilling by the way, that couldn't have been all that easy!

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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2010, 06:49:16 PM »
..a cpl of days ago, i thot I had a clutch problem....scoot was hesitant at take-off, especially up-hill...kinda shudderred until it got up a lil speed...

..as it turned out, my air filter was dirty...cleaned it and my scoot smoothed right out...hmmm...
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Re: Rough take off and rough ride
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2010, 12:17:40 AM »
Now I am a total wreck! Shaka, where did you see picts. of the drilled clutch bell? I must be huffing too much swamp gas...
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