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topaz6turbo

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Belt size for Agility 125?
« on: December 30, 2009, 08:42:39 AM »
Guys, been doing a lot of googling without a lot of luck. Can anyone tell the the belt size on the 125 agility as I am trying to order a kevlar unit online and they want the size not the bike model.
Thanks
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 12:18:32 PM »
Quote from: topaz6turbo on December 30, 2009, 08:42:39 AM
Guys, been doing a lot of googling without a lot of luck. Can anyone tell the the belt size on the 125 agility as I am trying to order a kevlar unit online and they want the size not the bike model.
Thanks
Andrew

I am browsing through my papers and here is what I have installed on my gf's A125:

OEM part code 23100-KEC4-900, has length of 781 mm and width 20 mm. - incorrect info from various sites, read on the thread!
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 10:03:58 AM »
Great, I bought belt from online ebay shop and they sent me 737x18 mm (for Kymco Dink 50).
I will try to arrange for a replacement, but what would happen if I install 5 cm shorter belt?
Does the verb "snap" come into action?
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 07:04:13 PM »
Its going to overheat cover and melt away, maybe snap...dont try it...i did with 740 kevlar--broke my variator..

at first wheel will turn without pulling gas lever...

then cover and ventilvar will overheat rollers who may just get stuck in upgear...

bad, bad mamma jamma...

781 regular or 800 kevlar...

peace.
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 10:36:08 PM »
Quote from: marioG on November 05, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
Its going to overheat cover and melt away, maybe snap...dont try it...i did with 740 kevlar--broke my variator..

at first wheel will turn without pulling gas lever...

then cover and ventilvar will overheat rollers who may just get stuck in upgear...

bad, bad mamma jamma...

781 regular or 800 kevlar...

peace.




That sounds painful to see.  :-\
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 01:19:54 PM »
im still crying...
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 06:12:22 PM »
Quote from: marioG on November 06, 2010, 01:19:54 PM
im still crying...

I guess your wallet is crying.

Today I returned it back.

Of course, they sent the wrong air filter too. Great.

Two out of four wrong. Pads and shoes are, oh, miracle, correct.

p.s. A125 and P250S have the same brake pads! (left disc on P250S, that is to say, the right one is mirror version).
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 07:34:20 PM »
no cash problem,

but that was in april...so i was without bike a lot of time...
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 03:52:52 PM »
I came across a site that states the Kymco 125 drive belt is 788 x 17.  The manual states:
Kymco Agility 125 Scooter Repair Manual

Width check - Standard limit 17.5(mm), Service Limit 16.5(mm),

Yet below on the next page or so it states replace belt when 19mm or below.  Looks like they copied the manual from the GY6150 which uses 842 or 830x20x30.  I wish they would correct their manual.

My Ruckus/Zoomer uses a 795 x 18 belt.  I'm thinking of trying that.  I have a Kevlar one that was about $40, but they sell Gates belts for zoomer/ruckus for $15-20.  The stock belt doesn't last long for top end.  It wears quick and doesn't ride as high on the variator when worn.  It would be nice to use a 308 or 310.  The Kymco Movie 125 uses a 308x20, which would probably work awesome when using a 120mm variator like NCY-gold, Dr Pulley, or Prodigy.  Most GY6150s use 842x20 instead of 830x20 when using a larger face 120mm variator.  Don't know of a Distributor that sells a 308.
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 07:01:06 PM »
Quote from: HueJass on May 20, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
I came across a site that states the Kymco 125 drive belt is 788 x 17.  The manual states:
Kymco Agility 125 Scooter Repair Manual

Width check - Standard limit 17.5(mm), Service Limit 16.5(mm),

Yet below on the next page or so it states replace belt when 19mm or below.  Looks like they copied the manual from the GY6150 which uses 842 or 830x20x30.  I wish they would correct their manual.

Now I feel a bit tired of Kymco's bs. I do not know if you read that, but I have few days ago installed 781x20 mm belt and it snapped.
Kymco claims that its 23100-KEC4-9000 is 781x20x30x9.5 mm.

I wonder now is it because I bought 781x20 mm belt instead of God_knows_which_one_is_correct.

Now I see this manual where it seems it is 17 mm and who knows what the correct length is...

I am sick of Kymco's bs, monopoly situation in spare parts, I am slightly sick of nuts and bolts costing 20 US$ per piece, substandard quality of casting, rusty parts and general lack of quality, support, correct information in their own manuals that is preferably not in Chinglish or anything else...

Maybe I will cool off until tomorrow.

WTF THEN IS THE CORRECT BELT SIZE FOR A125?!?!?!?

AAAAAAAAA!!!!!! ??? ::) :o >:(
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 07:48:54 PM »
this is wright part: 23100-KEC4-9000 is 781x20x30x9.5

But sometimes people make mistake and buy 743x20x30 which is kymco belt too, but  not for agility....

i have dayco 800x20 part 8172k and its OK...
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 05:20:04 AM »
Quote from: axy on May 20, 2011, 07:01:06 PM
Now I feel a bit tired of Kymco's bs. I do not know if you read that, but I have few days ago installed 781x20 mm belt and it snapped.
Kymco claims that its 23100-KEC4-9000 is 781x20x30x9.5 mm.

I wonder now is it because I bought 781x20 mm belt instead of God_knows_which_one_is_correct.

Now I see this manual where it seems it is 17 mm and who knows what the correct length is...

I am sick of Kymco's bs, monopoly situation in spare parts, I am slightly sick of nuts and bolts costing 20 US$ per piece, substandard quality of casting, rusty parts and general lack of quality, support, correct information in their own manuals that is preferably not in Chinglish or anything else...

Maybe I will cool off until tomorrow.

WTF THEN IS THE CORRECT BELT SIZE FOR A125?!?!?!?

AAAAAAAAA!!!!!! ??? ::) :o >:(
No need to cool off.  I can pick up spare bolts from the Honda fiche and order them up.  The thread patterns are similar. 
I plan on getting a 120mm variator and want a larger belt so it has the length to ride all the way at the edge of it.  I want to pop 75 downhill :-)  A short case gy6 long blocks are 300 bucks online delivered.  Boom, done. 150cc, 180cc kits of kick ass-ness. Cams, polished and ported heads.... blah blah. Custom header pipes.  Cheap hobbie when still compared to Japan, or a Motorcycle from Japan.  Geez, look at a Harley, I could have 10 scooters for 1 Harley Road King....  lol.
I wrench on my Ruckus all the time, so time to tweak the Kymco. NCY variator/clutch kit coming soon.  I need a belt that rolls all the way up. 
Do ya think 810 or 815 would be too long?  Is an 800mm big enough  I'm sure if you keep between 18-20mm width, yer good.  I'm gonna throw in a Kevlar Kitaco Zoomer/Ruckus belt.  Don't know the exact size, thinkin 790'ish x 19 width. I'll give it a try.  I should have the kit soon and will post results.  The belt size doesn't compensate for the lack of speedo calibration.  60 = 54-55.  50 = 46-47 / GPS speed.  Figure you need to hit 75mph indicated to achieve 65.  Doesn't do well either that the odometer is putting on more miles than you ride.  See, I can bitch too... haha! 
All is all the Agility still kicks ass!  It rocks!

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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 10:22:59 PM »
Ok, the Zoomer Ruck belts are not as deep, they will just slip and burn... 
Gonna try and get a 821x20x30, and see how that works.
Here's a link to a buddy site running shortcase GY6 125... they talk about belt sizes too.
http://www.modernbuddy.com/forum/topic12128.html
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 09:39:43 AM »
So, the belt size is somewhere between 0 and 1 meter.
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Re: Belt size for Agility 125?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 05:33:43 PM »


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46 US$, Dayco.
In their catalogue, belt for A125 and Movie 125 is - 800x20 mm!
So, I bought it this evening.
Now I am waiting for pulley blocker to arrive from China, and then I will try to replace the friggin belt again.
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