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Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« on: March 29, 2010, 04:29:24 AM »
 8)  Have tried to kick start the scooter just for giggles, and found it impossible for me to do. 
 Are all kickers stiff or am I just a wimp?
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 05:31:02 AM »
Having never personally kickstarted a People S 200 I'm not sure, I'm going with wimp though!  Just kidding!  I kickstart my ZX50 multiple times daily and it's easy.  I'm not sure if the larger engine is just harder to turn over, or you have something jammed up?  Does the lever move when you kick it, or can you just not get enough umph behind it?
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 07:36:45 PM »
When I had my battery issues last summer, I kicked started it many times. It was very difficult to depress. I needed all of my 200+ pounds to do it.  Even with that I would nearly exhaust myself with the repetitions needed to get it started. The first time I needed to do it I was stranded at work. A passerby who said he was an experienced motorcycle rider helped me out and had a difficult time as well and commented on how difficult it was.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 09:54:55 PM »
It may be a combo of 2 things. The ratio on the 1/2 moon kick gear, and the auto choke not coming in when the scoot is warm. I found my 50 ALWAYS needs the manual choke ON to get a 1 kick start. As for the ratio of the starter gears there is really nothing you can do to change that.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 09:59:06 PM »
Kick starting Kymcos is very hard, but I like that because it gives a "solid build" feel to it.
Kick starting Italian scoots for example is much easier but it feels like you will break something.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 06:15:18 PM »
Zombie, you have manual choke on a zx 50???  how, where, not factory correct?  i use duct tape to cover the intake area
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 11:39:58 PM »
They took the kick start off several Vespas as they found they would not start them if the battery was too far gone -and- the if you used the kick start lever in the wrong way/nangle/place, it would crack the CVT housing face around the the starter shaft. Many have found the new cover and replaced their old one or have taken the lever off and covert eh remaining hole as it was useless 90% of time and break the cover the balance (%s are SWAGs)
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 12:29:23 PM »
Quote from: wvlady63 on March 29, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
8)  Have tried to kick start the scooter just for giggles, and found it impossible for me to do. 
 Are all kickers stiff or am I just a wimp?

..kick-start mechanisms should be kept lightly, but well lubricated for them to function smoothly...

..don't lube excessively, because you don't want it to transfer to the cvt...

..i removed my electric starter a long time ago, when it just would no longer work, and my dealer said KYMCO denied it as warranty becaue i had not been taking the scoot to a factory rep for service...

..i can, with a good glove on, start my A50 by hand with the kick-start...



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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 01:31:27 AM »
Quote from: wvlady63 on March 29, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
8)  Have tried to kick start the scooter just for giggles, and found it impossible for me to do. 
 Are all kickers stiff or am I just a wimp?


Have tried my P150 a few times also without success.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 01:50:39 AM »
For rgy: I have a Delorto carb. That was the first part I ordered!  For wvlady I forgot to post it is easier to listen/feel for the compression stroke on a 4t engine. You push the kick lever untill you feel the resistance of the valves closed, and then give it a firm kick. The idea is you are lining up for the spark to hit on the first bit of the kick, and not spinning the engine on a dead stroke. Same applies for all 4t engines.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 06:56:45 PM »
...well put zombie!!
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 02:25:36 PM »
Quote from: wvlady63 on March 29, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
8)  Have tried to kick start the scooter just for giggles, and found it impossible for me to do. 
 Are all kickers stiff or am I just a wimp?

I could have kickstarted my Peugeot 50cc scooter with my thumb  ;D but the kick-starter
on my A125 takes a bit of effort and it's rather hard to get it going using the kick-starter.
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2010, 02:43:37 PM »
Quote from: Cortez on April 08, 2010, 02:25:36 PM
I could have kickstarted my Peugeot 50cc scooter with my thumb  ;D but the kick-starter
on my A125 takes a bit of effort and it's rather hard to get it going using the kick-starter.

..you might want to try adjusting your idle mix a bit...
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2010, 02:57:37 PM »
Quote from: wordslinger on April 08, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
..you might want to try adjusting your idle mix a bit...

Why?

It literally explodes into life in milliseconds when I thumb the electric starter..
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Re: Why do the People S 200 have a kick start?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2010, 03:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Cortez on April 08, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
Why?

It literally explodes into life in milliseconds when I thumb the electric starter..

..then don't worry about it...
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