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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 02:16:54 AM »
No Doubt! Check the bearings, as they take all the abuse. If they're good-you're good
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 02:10:30 PM »
hey sid, hows that variator??.i looked at them on ebay. is it bigger than oem?, worth a crap?, can u tell any difference in preformance or even looks???.. seems like to good of a price!!!!!!! what all came in package??
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 02:03:21 AM »
G'day batman, the variator is the same diameter but the back is not recessed as much as the stock one so I had to grind a bit off the crankcase. I know it sounds bad but it isnt, only took a touch. I think it is better. see my thread different size variator in the tech/how to section.
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 02:19:11 AM »
...need me a bigger variator,,,and some of them sliding things too...
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 02:33:59 AM »
G'day batman, the variatop is the same diameter but the back is not recessed as much as the stock one so I had to grind a bit off the crankcase. I know it sounds bad but it isnt, only took a touch. I think it is better. see my thread different size variator in the tech/how to section.


...how does deeper help...

..different ramp angle??
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 02:37:01 AM »
Ive been thinking about the Malossi Over-range, But I would prefer getting a stiffener for the frame first. It's not much fun feeling the bars move an inch or more (forward/back) on uneven roads at 60 mph. Makes me think it has to have a limit on how much it can handle.   http://49ccscoot.com/brace.html
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 02:40:28 AM »
...hey, we could make that stiffner...

..does the over-range have a bigger o.d.?
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2010, 02:50:07 AM »
Yeah! I'm not sure on the specs., but MOST cases have to be trimmed/ground down for clearance. The end result is the exact same take off w/ a taller ratio for the top end. It is one of the Keys to a 70mph scoot. Most scoots cannot get there w/ out one! Your shop does aluminum fab right? That would be a great choice for material. (the hard marine grade stuff) You may be able to put a few out there thru the forum. The toughest one is ALWAYS the first one. After that I imagine about an hour to fab.
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 02:54:28 AM »
...we do aluminum die casting...for the automotive industry...

..but i can get any kind of materials...

...i think i could dial in an o/r variator with the right weights....
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 03:24:06 AM »
I like that cross brace!  It's got me thinking about working on my Vento.  I wish mine looked as nice as that one!  Mine is a POS!  The weather is getting nice out, I might have to start back on that project! ;)

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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 08:25:07 PM »
Yeah slinger. I would look at the Malossi or the Polinni first. I will try to look up a few, and see what if any mods are needed. (longer belt right off the bat)   I still have that nc/50 chopper sitting in the shop ALMOST finished for the past few months so don't feel bad shaka. If I put my self to it I may have 20 or so hours to finish it. (including paint)
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 11:03:29 PM »
...well, i've got to buy a new variator anyway (damned 3-roller excursion)

..so I might as well go for it...
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2010, 04:57:17 AM »
G’day all, has been a while since my last update. After much fiddling with this cylinder kit I have finished up cutting a spacer to raise the cylinder to line up the bottom of the transfer ports with the top of the piston @ b.d.c. Having done that I had about 2.7mm machined off the top of the cylinder to keep it level with the piston @ t.d.c. The way it is currently, it is running ok though there is some bog over ¾ throttle but I think that will be sorted with correct jetting, (I hope). I am currently running a 130 jet so will try somewhere around 125 or 128.
 I still feel there is a lot more to be had from this setup but I have yet to find out how. So, will continue playing with jetting and plug indexing, maybe even trying with more height adjusting of the cylinder.  :)
I will try to put up two pics of the port maps, one with the cylinder as new and the other as the cylinder is now, they are not too good but you will get the idea. In the first pic the line through the ports approx. 1/3rd. the way up is the top of the piston at bottom dead centre, in the second pic. it is at the bottom of the ports.
It may take a couple of posts to get them up so please bear with me.
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2010, 04:59:43 AM »
here is the pic of the port map as it is now.
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Re: Kymco ZX50, 82cc Upgrade
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2010, 02:35:27 AM »
Amazing differance. I can't figure how they could sell it in the state it was.
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