xciting 500 vs burgman 400.

[mrbios]

I've ridden two different B400's.  One had some handlebar vibration.   Several years ago someone said the Burgman was superior to the xciting.  Thoughts?

I've owned my 2005 GV250 for almost 5 years and put 17k on it so I feel Kymco makes a decent product.

[sissy mary]

The burger 400 has it's good points such as gas mileage, and more under seat storage. but the xciting 500 has a better ride, more power, 15 & 14 inch tires vs 14 & 13 inches etc. 

[xsel777]

I am of the opinion that the xc500 is much better looking,  has a higher riding position, and it also drives amazingly well,like a motorcycle really.
The b/man has Suzuki backing, and I don't hear much regarding issues with them.
But from my view they are bland, while the xc500 has tons of character.
Just one thing to watch for , is the cold start issue on the kymco.
Every time I get on my XC500EFI, my happiness factor shoots through the roof!

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[mrbios]

From what you guys say and my experience with the GV250 it sounds like the xciting 500 is worth a try. I like the 15/14" tire combo vs 14/13" on the Bman.  I'm weary of small / tiny wheels also a 14" rear introduces the possibility of "Darksiding".

[ddarkone7]

I currently own a burgy 400, and the scooter club i ride with, the leader have a xc500, the only difference that is noticeable to me is the extra horses. I went from 16" wheels to the burgy wheels, and really don't feel a difference when going over bumps. The burgy is very steady at high speeds and in the twisties, it's very well balanced. Only thing everyone don't like about the burgman is the muffler issue, everytime, you take the tire off, you have to remove the muffler, and there's a gasket in there that needs to be replaced everytime. If you don't you will have an exhaust leak, and most dealers forget that gasket. On the burgy forums, that's one of the main issues, and the cvt, but that's most scoots

[mrbios]

I currently own a burgy 400, and the scooter club i ride with, the leader have a xc500, the only difference that is noticeable to me is the extra horses....

Good feedback thanks.  I was wondering about vibration... I have only ridden the b400 twice and one of the scoots produced some handlebar vibration that left my hands feeling a little bit of a tingling sensation do you ever experience that? 

Also, the do you thing the xc500 is noticeably more powerful or just a little more that might not be worth the reduced mpg?

[ddarkone7]

there's no vibration, if you had that, maybe a bad wheel bearing or something, and the 500 is smoother and quicker off the line noticeably

[de dee]

what would be the difference ?   exiting 500  and the 300 downtown,  I am in Canada and never seen a 500, in Ottawa On.

[mrbios]

there's no vibration, if you had that, maybe a bad wheel bearing or something, and the 500 is smoother and quicker off the line noticeably

One of the b400's that I rode had the vibration the other did not.  The one that did was being sold really cheap and I suspected there might be an issue.  My last ride 2002 to 2009 was a bmw with a 750cc motor.  Then I got the Kymco in 2011.  It is the smallest motor I ever owned except for a 250cc enduro.  Now I'm kind of interested in some extra power mainly on the highway.

[mrbios]

what would be the difference ?   exiting 500  and the 300 downtown,  I am in Canada and never seen a 500, in Ottawa On.

America - land of the over powered vehicle.  The problem for me is highway speeds in California.  Many times people are averaging 75 mph (120 kph) so it is nice to have the extra speed & power that a 500cc offers.  Many scooters are 150cc or smaller and can't go on the highway so 500cc would be an overpowered waste.

[de dee]

that is still in the speed range of a 300 downtown ,  I can cruse all day at 85 MPH.   top speed about 95 MPH.  ( 155 Km. )

[mrbios]

that is still in the speed range of a 300 downtown ,  I can cruse all day at 85 MPH.   top speed about 95 MPH.  ( 155 Km. )

It sounds like the downtown 300 is a good machine.

[AMAC1680]

It sounds like the downtown 300 is a good machine.

It has a better weight to HP ratio than the 500.
The exciting 500 is 473lbs and 40 hp.
The DT 300 is 375 lbs and 30 hp.
The burger is 489 lbs and 32hp

I'm not saying it's better I'm just saying its not really any faster. There's more to it than just raw displacment.

AMAC

[mrbios]

It has a better weight to HP ratio than the 500....
I'm not saying it's better I'm just saying its not really any faster. There's more to it than just raw displacment.

AMAC

Thanks those are all very good points I especially like seeing the waitlist at I didn't realize the b400 was so heavy and you make a good point about the power to weight ratio of the 300 actually being better. I wonder how the BV 350 Stacks up in your comparison I've never ridden it but I've heard really good things about it.

[Stig / Major Tom]

$6299 with ABS, 471cc's, 414 lbs.
2016 500F
Bulletproof engine.
CVT's are expensive...Gotta think outside the plastic panels, sometimes.

(The little 300F is a steal at $3999, but no ABS yet.)


Stig