14000 miles, too many?

[Jake1939]

Looking @ 2012 like 200i  with 14000 miles. Should it have many miles left in it? Looks well cared for. Price $800. All replies appreciated.

         
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[CROSSBOLT]

Probably over 60000.

Karl

[ScooterLar]

It all depends on how it's been maintained. Questions I would ask.....Has the oil been changed regularly? Has the final drive oil been changed regularly? Have the valves been adjusted? Have the tires been replaced? Look for signs of oil leaks on the bottom of the motor and near the final drive assy. $800 is a fair price if the bike has been well maintained.

[Stig / Major Tom]

That's a lot of miles for a LIKE200i in N. America!
Would likely win 1st prize here on the forum, I think.
You are on the edge of the unknown here - we have little experience with 14,000 mile LIKE's, and do not know how long these bikes will last.
Only a few have reported mileage approaching your scoot's.....but that is because so few put many miles on any small scooter in this country. Not the scooter's fault.

Look it over, ask for service records (oil changes and valves adjusted !?!) A good set of tires runs @ $150/$200  installed.
Ride it. Good pulling power? Leaks under engine, under CVT cover, around back wheel hub?

If it rides good, and sounds good today - then I would think you will get many more good running miles out of it.

If tires are funky might try an offer of $700 - but think $800 is a fair price for a good running LIKE200i.
Walk away if it's not a good runner and in decent shape (check parts prices if things look like they will need to be replaced. http://www.kymcopartsmonster.com/p/Kymco-Scooter-Parts)
Good luck
Stig

[TroutBum]

I have a 2012 Like just about to roll 13,000 miles. I personally feel it can go 60,000 miles if properly maintained. I see no reason why it shouldn't.

As others have mentioned ask for service records, check for leaks and ask to test ride. If it checks out I think $800 is reasonable.

[vespbretta]

This can never be answered in one sentence. As many other have already mentioned, it depends on many things and the overall condition of the scooter. But with that many miles there is always a risk for the need of the change of various wearparts.
And then it is a simple calculation, especially if you are a DIY person or dependent on a repair shop with high costs.
But with 14000miles, I would expect a few wearparts needed to be changed. So ask for them first or ask a buddy with technical knowledge to prepare a checklist.

Brakepads wear?
Brake pistons blocked? (Do the wheels turn freely and easily?)
Wheel bearings condition?
Corrosion?
Tyres Age and wear?
Shocks and dampers?
Lights and electrical Systems?
Engine oil leak? Oil consumption? Higher Fuel consumption?
Engine starts immediately and runs properly? Up to top speed?
Last Valve Clearance check?
Condition wires and hoses?
Condition catalytic converter? Condition exhaust pipe? Corrosion?
Rear wheel play? Axial and radial? Abnormal noises from the gearbox?
CVT Transmission: Drive pulley, weights and clutch - everything more or less within specs or worn out? Belt brand, age and condition?
Crankshaft seal and gearbox seal leaking?
Crankshaft and crankshaft bearing play? Same with driveshaft gearbox?
......
......to be continued as you like

Just an idea of how  I would try to sift the chaff from the wheat. :-) ;-)

Buying used vehicles is either kind of a casino gambling or pretty serious tough time consuming work. or a compromise of both.
But in worst case 800 bucks probably wouldn´t cause a existential threat. :-)

[2wheelfun]

While it's running put your hand as close the exhaust while running for at least a minute. See what residue comes out of the pipe.

[Jake1939]

Serviced regularly. New tires, new rear brakes. Valves never adjusted.  If valves need adjustment, would that only make it run poorly, or would it cause damage to the engine?   

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[beermak]

Id buy

Great price and has been serviced.

The scooter looks good? No scratches? Falls?


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[vespbretta]

Serviced regularly. Valves never adjusted.

This doesn´t fit together imho. Especially when valve adjustment is so quickly and easily done an the Like models anyway.

And wrong valve clearance can cause both: poor running and poor starting and damage to the engine of course if way too loose or too tight.

[Siggy Javotnik]

Serviced regularly. New tires, new rear brakes. Valves never adjusted.  If valves need adjustment, would that only make it run poorly, or would it cause damage to the engine?   

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Valves left too tight (they tend to tighten, especially exhaust valves, with use as the valve material seats) can lead to quiet running (a loud tappet is a happy tappet) and make your bike eat the valve (major engine overhaul). Leaving them too loose is less likely a problem, but can lead to excessive wear on the valve train. I wouldn't walk away from a good deal on a Like. I would just do the valve adjustment when I got the bike home and it cooled down overnight. Easy to get to the valves. There's only two of them.

[AMAC1680]

This doesn´t fit together imho. Especially when valve adjustment is so quickly and easily done an the Like models anyway.

And wrong valve clearance can cause both: poor running and poor starting and damage to the engine of course if way too loose or too tight.

Devils advocate.
He said never adjusted not never checked.

AMAC

[vespbretta]

Devils advocate.
He said never adjusted not never checked.

AMAC

Ok. But normally within 14000 selfriden? miles the valve gap changes, especially on the critical exhaust valve. I would at least take that for granted. Therefore a check wouldn´t be enough. Especially important after the first 600miles when the valves have been seated. For example my valve clearances were totally out of specs after the first approx. 630miles. Therefore I not only checked them, but subsequently had to adjust them properly. After that initial check and adjustment at 600miles it´s not that critical anymore. A check every 5-6t.miles should be enough.

Normally if serviced regularily and therefore the valves at least checked, there would be a notice on that in the service and maintanance book and or the bills... so we wouldn´t have to discuss this here.

So, for me, the status remains unclear. Period.

And by the way: Even checked and adjusted valves mean nothing special. I had valves checked and adjusted on a earlier bike at a shop and paid for that "work". Afterwards I re-checked them and noticed, that the valves were still out of specs - way out of specs....

[Jake1939]

Valves were never even checked. By the way, I passed on it. Too risky. Could have been a real value or a real headache. Plenty more out there to choose from.   Thanks to all.