Author Topic: Brakes.  (Read 3502 times)

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Brakes.
« on: May 27, 2016, 03:18:55 AM »
Hi all,

For those that have changed their brakes, as in replaced parts due to wear such as brake pads, rotors, calipers, piston seals, brake pumps, fluid, hose, banjos etc.

I don't think I left anything else out.

But my scooter has done 30,000kms. In that time it has gone thru 3 sets of front pads, 1st set was the original factory fitted set, 2nd set were Goldfren AD pads and now the 3rd is Goldfren S-33 (HH rated) pads.  The rear pads were replaced 8000kms ago.

My front rotor now needs replacing, anyone has alternative options for this or original Kymco is still the best? Also I will be using Vesrah Organic Pads (WD-156) with the new rotor.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 05:58:11 AM by kneeslider »
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

mousejunks

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 585
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 12:42:36 PM »
My DT '11 has 42,000km and only brake pads and fluid have been replaced. I used the vesrah sintered type and it's fine.

As for the rotor, go for the original Kymco part.
'09 Kymco Espresso 150i
'11 Kymco Downtown 300i ABS - 79,500km
'17 Kymco Downtown 350i ABS

wheels

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
  • USA, NC, Raleigh
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 11:22:24 PM »
I am at 17K miles and the front pads are at 50% rear is 60%.   I don't drive much in stop and go.  Do you use your rear brakes as part of braking procedure ?
2012  DT 300i  26K miles,  Bestem 929, Biondi w/s, LED brake/tail,turn, OEM mirrors fairing mount, removed buttstop
2015  GTi300  7K miles, Bestem 929 case, PUIG TS w/s, mirrors mounted to w/s, led DRLs in windguards
2014  Honda CTX700,  35Kmiles, many mods

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 05:51:33 AM »
Yes I do esp to stabilize her when I am in the corner, or when I need to shave of some sleep while being in its side.

I am at 17K miles and the front pads are at 50% rear is 60%.   I don't drive much in stop and go.  Do you use your rear brakes as part of braking procedure ?
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

CROSSBOLT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7763
  • West Tennessee, USA
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 01:11:29 PM »
Yes I do esp to stabilize her when I am in the corner, or when I need to shave of some sleep while being in its side.

Huh?
Karl

Three motorcycles 1960-1977 (restored a 1955 BSA)
Agility 50
Yager 200i
Downtown 300i
Navy tech, Ships Engineer, pilot and aircraft mechanic

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 01:01:52 AM »
Whoops. typo:
Yes I do esp to stabilize her when I am in the corner, or when I need to shave of some sleep SPEED while being in its side.

Huh?
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 01:19:28 PM »
Whoops. typo:
Yes I do esp to stabilize her when I am in the corner, or when I need to shave of some sleep SPEED while being in its side.

Extra sensory perception, how does that work? :)
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2016, 04:20:26 AM »
Well, If you are in a corner and need to shave off some speed, application of the rear brake will help tighten your line. It wil also 'calm' her down.

If you use the front brake, it will tend to stand the scooter/bike up, screwing up your line and also introduce the risk of a low side.

Extra sensory perception, how does that work? :)
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

Stig / Major Tom

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14679
  • Rural Ohio
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2016, 10:36:28 AM »
Well, If you are in a corner and need to shave off some speed, application of the rear brake will help tighten your line. It wil also 'calm' her down.

If you use the front brake, it will tend to stand the scooter/bike up, screwing up your line and also introduce the risk of a low side.

Or off the right shoulder into gravel or sand.....or the Armco.
My instructors repeatedly emphasized that the tires have more grip than you imagine. ..
lean and go on around the bend.
I guess if you put full leathers on and can practice this on a closed course......
Stig
Boston Strong
Rural Ohio

And, I'm feeling a little peculiar.

TANWare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 552
  • E3.38, RP oil Eng & FD, Dr Pulley 20x12 14 gr
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2016, 12:45:25 AM »
I can attest to the fact you can really pitch these bikes pretty far over. I have done so recently. Where as with some other bike there was a real scary feeling this bike felt quite secure. The only insecure feeling was using the throttle to roll out of the turn as the CVT delay takes getting used too. Direct gearing will let the torque immediately upright the bike with throttle and visa versa.

I ride with as little brake usage as possible. I try and rely on them to stop only. This not only saves fuel but seems to keep me further away from trouble. I am sure people following are in a hurry to get there just to wait for traffic to start back up but I am not, you just have to watch for the traffic behind you though.

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 01:31:10 AM »
At low and mid speeds yes, her weight keeps her stable, but at high speed sweepers, she will wobble due to a flexible chassis and bounce due to cheap shocks.
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

TANWare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 552
  • E3.38, RP oil Eng & FD, Dr Pulley 20x12 14 gr
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 11:40:29 AM »
Too chicken here to pitch it way over at high speed. Same here with any bike to be honest. I like the idea at higher speeds to have that extra lean if need be.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 05:40:48 AM by TANWare »

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 02:08:21 AM »
When I say high speed, I meant 127km/h indicated on her speedo, It's probably only 110km/h on GPS. That's as fast as she'll go.  But it is enough for her to wobble and bounce due to the reasons I already mentioned.  And that's with the rear shock dialed to max - No.5.

 

Too chicken here to pitch it way over at high speed. Same here with any bike to be honest. I like the idea at ihgher speeds to have that extra lean if need be.
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

TANWare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 552
  • E3.38, RP oil Eng & FD, Dr Pulley 20x12 14 gr
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016, 05:45:10 AM »
WOT leaned over, not me that is for sure. So I will take your word on that one.

kneeslider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 547
    • View Profile
Re: Brakes.
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2016, 06:47:53 AM »
I won't do it too if the road is really bumpy.  ;)
2019 Yamaha X-Max 250

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function split()