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First Oil change weird discovery
« on: August 31, 2016, 11:33:05 PM »
So I changed my oil today, and I usually use a cut off round gallon jug from a windshield washer container to catch the oil then transfer to a used oil container, this way I can see what comes outed..anyway, I start draining the oil... And it comes out pretty dark, I guess normal... and it keeps coming and coming and I'm looking at it in amazement because all of this oil keeps draining out. Turns out there was a little over 1 1/2 quarts of oil in it! My model calls for 0.9 liter or just shy of 1 quart! So it basically had double the amount of oil in it!
My concern is what kind of damage could this have caused? I'm thinking blown seals but it doesn't leak....maybe lucky?

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2016, 12:03:28 AM »
Ah, Joe, that should have shown on the dipstick. During your pre-delivery inspection. Too much oil is not good because it gets whipped into a froth and the oil pump fails to deliver sufficient oil to the valve cover area. Having said all that, I would not worry too much since most all the Kymco models are nearly bullet-proof. I recommend you check the valves and the cam for any scoring. All is well if the cam lobes look good. The only model that seemed to have problems with cam hardness is the Xciting 500i and it has a LOT more oil in the sump than .9 quart.

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2016, 01:52:33 AM »
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I should have stated that I bought it second hand and the previous owner overfilled it or his mechanic did, one or the other. I checked the oil prior to purchasing but I didn't notice it being that high, but then I guess I was only concerned that it had oil in it... Who overfills the oil? That was just stupid. They probably just filled it til it came out the top! The screen was clean...no debris and the used oil didn't appear to have any shavings in it. So checking the cam sounds like a big job... Seems like I have to take most of the plastic off to get to the engine? Might be time for a service manual...

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2016, 04:37:15 PM »
Wow, Joe, that's a lot of extra oil !!!! How many miles did you drive, from the time you bought it, to the time you changed it? I'm shocked that you didn't blow a seal. When I bought mine from the dealer, he told me he just had his tech change the oil. Couldn't remember what oil they use, he said. So as soon as I got it home( rented a u-haul motorcycle trailer for $15) I changed the oil myself. That way I knew what kind and how much was in there . Hope everything is fine with yours


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if it has not caused any obvious problems
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2016, 05:19:29 PM »
most likely everything is ok.
I would make sure the engine has the proper amount of oil and ride on.
You might want to check your air filter and see if it is saturated with oil.
If your engine is running good with no obvious leaks, you should be fine.
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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 08:36:06 PM »
Don't have to do much plastic removal, just remove seat and tub underneath and maybe a panel in front of engine to get at the rocker cover. Then remove rocker cover to inspect. While in there check the valve clearances to be sure. No biggie.

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2016, 10:59:32 PM »
Also need to drain the hang down overflow oil drain tube thingy.Whats that called Karl? I'm getting sometimers!
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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2016, 11:34:02 PM »
Also need to drain the hang down overflow oil drain tube thingy.Whats that called Karl? I'm getting sometimers!

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2016, 11:35:20 PM »
More than likely no issue, but do what was suggested by the gang to be sure.

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2016, 11:42:47 PM »
Thanks Troutbum! I think the Puke Tube hangs down near the holder-upper ;D
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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2016, 01:23:44 AM »
I alway just leave my puke tube unpluged...just hope nobody fallows to close behinde me.......lol.   

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2016, 01:59:07 AM »
Generally speaking, if nothing happened, then nothing happened. And if something happened, it has already happened and will be obvious. Overfilling is most likely to cause problems at higher rpm. I know the small engine is slightly more sensitive. But we've had careless lube guys to forget to drain the old oil and install 6qts of new oil. The customer would leave. If they were a conservative driver, they might not notice for several day until they have to rapidly accelerate. Then it smokes like a burning oil well. They come in in a panic. We drain the oil and properly fill it. We drive it about ten miles to clear the smoke and to make sure there are no obvious problems. The manager puts in writing that if a problem occurs within X amount of time or mileage, the shop will make it good, they offer the customer a few free oil changes or a free detail for good will. And the customer is on their way. So far no one has returned with engine problems. If there is any damage, it has always been evident immediately. I'm going a long way around to say don't worry. Just make sure it never happens again.
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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2016, 02:02:42 PM »
Thanks for the replys....I don't believe anything major happened either at this point...it seems to be running real good ....I don't want to jinx myself so I'll leave it at that...lol.  I will however take a look at the air filter and replace it if needed. By the way...what's this puke tube ya'll talking about? Lol.

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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2016, 04:01:36 PM »
Scion owners report doing their first DIY oil change...then putting in four qts and finding oil massively overfilled....because they had drained tranny fluid.
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Re: First Oil change weird discovery
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2016, 05:54:56 PM »
Scion owners report foing their first DIY oil change...then putting in four qts and finding oil massively overfilled....because they had drained tranny fluid.
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Yes, on many Toyota/scion products the transmission drain plug stands out more than the oil drain plug. There was also one brand of car that had a relatively large place for the transmission dipstick. And a customer added motor oil to the automatic transmission. That caused major problems


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