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STARTING PROBLEMS
« on: June 17, 2010, 08:55:46 AM »
hi, i have had a new battery and if i have it on a battery charger my kymco kicks up fine, leave it over night and i cant get it to kick up, charge battery again it kicks up,(only needs a little charging about 10 mins) cant get it to kick up of kick start,and scooter will run if i disconnect battery so i think alternator's must be fine any clues, cheers lee

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2010, 11:53:24 AM »
did you try an other battery ?? maybe your battery is loosing power , but it's not always from the battery ,at me after this winter didn't want t start at all at button ,I even put the car battery and nothing... just from kickstarter ,but after a kickstart and warmup the engine the button starts at a simple push ...

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 12:00:59 AM »
Put an amp meter between the battery terminal and the cable to see if there is something drawing power when the switch is off.
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 02:04:32 AM »
...it's probably the starter motor...mine did the same thing, and i found that the starter's magnets had broken free of the casing...
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 03:57:21 AM »
Sounds like the battery has a bad cell, ive had this before with a new battery.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 04:43:31 AM »
I forgot to mention you also need to check that the machine is charging when it is running.

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2010, 09:59:51 PM »
Speaking of starting problems, I am also having problems getting the electric starter to work.

I have tested the battery - it is fine, fully charged, and putting out the correct amps.

I have tested the alternator - it is fine and keeping the battery charged

I removed the starter and it spins freely when I turn it with my hand.

Strange thing is sometimes the starter kicks in fine, sometimes it simply makes a clicking noise, sometimes it does nothing.  I can never predict what will happen when I try the electric starter.  I borrowed a battery jump starter and whenever I put that thing on, the starter works great.

Any ideas?

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2010, 10:12:08 PM »
..yeah, i would suspect the starter motor, again...

..since i got my people, and am using the starter from my A50 on it..

..it's clear that the 4t engine requires a lot more work out of the starter motor than a 2t...

..especially if the 4t's idle mix isn't "spot-on"...

..the magnets came loose from the casing with my a50 starter...

...i rebuilt it with parts from a junker chinese scoot i have...
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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2010, 06:41:34 PM »
Yep, that sounds about right.  I discovered that hitting the starter with a hammer makes it work for a while.

Looks like it's time for a new starter.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2010, 08:00:26 PM »
Looks like it's time for a new starter.

..or a bigger hammer...

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 08:29:07 PM »
when i press the electric start on my scoot the bendix spins untill it hits the big cog then stops is that lack of power in my battery? Help please

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 09:38:48 PM »
..in the other thread you said the bendix is spinning counter-clockwise, right??

..it should spin clockwise, i do believe...

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 10:29:24 PM »
it is spinning anti clockwise but if it spun the other way it would not come out to bigger cog have i bought a sh**ter lol

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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 10:32:03 PM »
..i have no idea what you've bought...

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Re: STARTING PROBLEMS
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 10:56:08 PM »
Finally solved my starting problem.  I did replace the starter - took almost 3 weeks to get it shipped from Stadium Yamaha.  Scoot starts great now.

I even took apart the old starter to see what was going on, but couldn't figure out what the problem with it was. 



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