2007 500 for $700 or straight up trade.

[Mikethesloan]

Hello scooter peeps. So I have a 2013 Super 8 150. It has 18xx miles. The only thing I've done to it is change the exhaust to a Yoshi TC racing and had the card re-jetted to match the change in fuel/air. So my dealer has a 2007 Kymco 500 with almost 8000 miles on it. The dealer had explained the that the previous owner dropped it due to not being able to handle the weight. So it has some scuffs and scrapes but they assure me it's mechanically sound and up to date on services and such. They want 700 cash or a straight up trade for my kymco 150. Would you take this deal from a Kymco dealer? If it was a private deal I would be wary, but I'm itching to get something bigger that what I have.

[Mr. Paul]

What part of the country do you live in Mike? From what I understand, the Xciting 500s do not like the cold.

[Mikethesloan]

I live in Syracuse NY. It gets cold but I winterize. I don't ride unless it's warm.  Does this scoot have trouble storing in the cold??

[beermak]

It has known problems of getting hard to start when cold! Id trade it right away!!!


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[Mr. Paul]

The Xciting 500s have a baad reputation about being hard to start in the cold. I would stay away from the Xciting unless you are only planning on cranking it in warm weather.

[Mikethesloan]

The business is closing and he doesn't sell sh** for scoots (rural ny). I don't crank in anything less than 60 F. Is that considered cold?  Lol

[bongoman]

There is a trick to starting my 09 Xciting in the cold. Less so after I replaced the OEM battery with a Lithium. Turn on key and warm the battery for 30 seconds to a minute with key and light on. Always wait for the battery icon to go off. That means the electronics are charged. Trying to crank when first turning key on tyakers a lot of juice. There are electronics that have to be fired up. I turn mine over a couple of times, and then she fires right up.

40 degrees is my cold limit. Usually 45, but I have put on leathers and ridden down to 35. Very cold. Couldn't wait to get home.

[alyn 7777]

I'm in the Seattle area and routinely ride in 35-37f during winter up here.  I do routinely start my 500 when cold even if I'm not riding. I do have a new battery and always wait the 5 seconds or so for the fuel pump to stop buzzing to be sure it primes. I almost never have an issue starting. The two times I have, I simply reached under and disconnected the headlight briefly and it starts right up.  I have ordered the euro start switch that allows us to manually turn off the headlight as I am thinking the bike was designed with that ability but U.S. laws made Kymco gives us the always on switch instead.  So it baffles me when I see all the hard starting issues here as I don't experience it. Valve clearances need to be in spec for sure for easy starts.

[Mikethesloan]

Are the cold start issues just related to the fuel injected versions of the 500?

[Stig / Major Tom]

Would he park the scoot overnight in an unheated part of his shop....?
Come then and see how it starts.
If you cannot get this prepurchase test done in rural NY.....I would keep my $ in my pocket as well as my good running  Super 8. Life is no fun when you trade a running scooter for one you cannot  rely on. A bigger, faster, more powerful dead scooter loses to a running 8.
Stig

[Mikethesloan]

Indeed Mr. Stig.

[TeamTEOR2]

I live in the metro Phoenix area of Arizona. It does get cold here, but my 2007 X-500 carb version has never given me issues with starting in the cold (40s). The only issue I have come across have been with the batteries not liking the cold. (BTW, I'm the original owner.) Any other start/run issues have been the carb needing a cleaning. It would start and run, but stall if the RPMs were low because the idle jet was clogged.

[sissymary]

I live in Phoenix and own a 2007 also. Orange. No starting issues with the carb model.

[willembop]

I have a 2007 carb model and it has cold starting issues. Started a couple of days ago at 46 degrees F, but this morning at 31 F was a no go. The starter turns it over well, but it won't fire. Connecting a jumper box gets it to start instantly. I'm thinking the coil might be weak, because it is the only part of the ignition that is not new. Perhaps the slightly higher voltage from the jumper battery overcomes the weak coil.

[gwdoiron]

Yes, the Xciting 500 does have cold start issues. (2009 Xciting Ri ABS here).

It is due to the drop in battery voltage when turning the engine over; your battery needs to be in good shape, or it will spin but not start up.  This is in stark contrast to the Xciting 250, which can still start with a pretty well run-down battery.  The XC500 electronics system kicks the bucket under a certain voltage; it needs to have gas and spark near TDC, which is when the starter is using the most current (to compress the air/gas mixture) which makes the battery voltage drop.  If the battery loses its cranking capacity, the Xciting will happily turn the engine over and over until the battery is dead without ever starting up.  If you lose the time on your clock while turning the engine over, your battery needs to be recharged, and replaced if recharging won't help the situation.  Fuel injection happens during the air intake part of the cycle, and that's when the injectors are used, so fuel injection probably doesn't meaningfully contribute to the starting problem. Colder temperatures reduce the available cold cranking current on a battery, which is why the XC500 has (a somewhat deserved) reputation for cold starting issues; the reduction in battery starting capacity can cause the voltage to drop further, crossing that magic line where it simply won't start.

In any event, when you turn the ignition on, WAIT for the engine light to go off before cranking over.  When you turn on the ignition, it momentarily turns on the fuel pump to pressurize the fuel rail; you don't want to crank it over while the fuel pump is still running (since it will be an additional load on the battery and drop the voltage more).