LIKE200i rear wheel removal, REVISED

[Stig / Major Tom]

Hi:  I have a 2012 Like 200i, 25K miles.  Recently had rear tire replaced and discovered two problems:  1)  one of the exhaust studs had broken off.  Therefore the muffler is now attached by only one stud at the engine.  Is the stud threaded and can be removed and replaced, or is it pressed in and must be drilled?  2)  The metal clip that bolts to the right front side of the fender hugger (mud guard) had broken.  Thus the hugger was unstable, rubbed on the tire, and the hugger was destroyed.  I found a new hugger online, but have not been able to find a part number for the clip.  Local dealers are clueless.  Any ideas?  In the mean time I'm riding without the hugger.  Thanks!

Hi Craig, welcome to the forum.
As for the exhaust studs - Yes, the two studs are threaded in.
Part # 90033BOLT STUD 8*32
90033-GFY6-C00

If not readily found - probably close , or the same, as used on other scoots (parts on ebay)

seen here....
https://solanocycle.dealerspikeparts.com/oemparts/a/kym/5b50e9a587a866110c2e0972/cylinder-head

Good luck.
Stig

[Ruffus]

@Craig,
maybe that helps..

[CraiginSB]

Thanks Ruffus, Stig, and big Blue.  The link to Solano Cycles really helped.  Yep, the right side clip is 11207, and the left side stay is 11208.  Looks like the intake studs are 90033 the exhaust side studs are 92900 if I interpret the drawings correctly.  Now just have to find them!  Thanks all.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Thanks Ruffus, Stig, and big Blue.  The link to Solano Cycles really helped.  Yep, the right side clip is 11207, and the left side stay is 11208.  Looks like the intake studs are 90033 the exhaust side studs are 92900 if I interpret the drawings correctly.  Now just have to find them!  Thanks all.

Yep, you're right, I correctly identified the wrong studs.😊
The exhaust studs are the 2 below.
I swear that I've seen them sold on ebay for other Chinese scooters - often with those long cap nuts included., for a couple of bucks.
Stig

[Ruffus]

@Craig,
mentioned studs are
# 90033 exhaust side 6×60mm
# 92900 intake side 8×32 mm
drawing lies a little bit.
This studs are standard items and could be easily obtained from any car or motorcycle shop. Just go in some mechanic shop and ask one of the guys to check his/her toolbox. Most good mechanics have some spare stashed somewhere. Or can pretty fast made from a good quality 6 mm bolt (grade 10.8 or higher).

[slwelsh]

OK, I know this is an old thread, but it seems the best place to ask:

I'm stuck at the step where the rear fork is supposed to be removed. It appears the inner race is seized to the shaft. I've tried WD40/PB Blaster and heat along with a three-jaw puller. I'm afraid to put more force on the puller because I don't want to break the casting. I see in the notes that Stig needed a 2-jaw puller and I am wondering if that was for this purpose?

Recommendations welcome.

BTW, I did need to use PB Blaster, heat, and a 3/8 air impact wrench to free the axle bolt.

-Sean

[Stig / Major Tom]

OK, I know this is an old thread, but it seems the best place to ask:

I'm stuck at the step where the rear fork is supposed to be removed. It appears the inner race is seized to the shaft. I've tried WD40/PB Blaster and heat along with a three-jaw puller. I'm afraid to put more force on the puller because I don't want to break the casting. I see in the notes that Stig needed a 2-jaw puller and I am wondering if that was for this purpose?

Recommendations welcome.

BTW, I did need to use PB Blaster, heat, and a 3/8 air impact wrench to free the axle bolt.

-Sean

Hello Sean,
You are correct to work with care - but I think that fork casting is pretty stout!..(I've seen good used ones on ebay for about $40)
Of course your front bolts are removed....and your scoot is securely stable - then I'd try a little wiggle to free the fork, as well as maybe a hammer tap on a wood block of the axle end, and a tap with the wood fore and aft on the fork. 

And more work with your puller.
I needed only a gentle pull with the tool to free the fork. I ran down to the hardware store and bought a cheap one. My fork popped right off.
Then again, my axle nut only needed a shot or two with an 1/2" impact gun.

This area of your scooter seems unusually stubborn!

I've no other trick for this to release from the axle. Some lubricant, and try every 24 hrs with your puller. Tap tap with the wood.

Hopefully - others will have a better idea for you. It can be discouraging for simple things like this to present such a problem. I would suspect your dealer would be using a puller as well...

Good luck and do let us know how this turns out for you. Your solution will help others in the future.

Stig

[slwelsh]

... but I think that fork casting is pretty stout! ...

This area of your scooter seems unusually stubborn!
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I've no other trick for this to release from the axle. Some lubricant, and try every 24 hrs with your puller. Tap tap with the wood.

Thanks for your insight. I went ahead and put a lot more pressure on the puller -- to the point where I am galling the threads of the puller. No luck. Pictured is the current state of affairs. Yes, I know my shocks are rusty. The scooter lives on a boat. That's probably the reason the bearing is seized to the shaft.

-Sean



Hmm. I tried to include a photo but the img tag does not seem to be working.

[Stig / Major Tom]

(Sean - some of us use postimages.org to host and load photos here.)

Darn - "on a boat" ? Saltwater, or ?
Anyway - you've probably found what I'm finding - this is a common enough problem with scooters and motorcycles.
One comment from a mechanic dealing with a flood scooter....after 3 or 4 hours he gave up.
Common enough that Scooterwest actually makes and sells a special puller tool for stuck Vespa swingarms. Fits only Vespa bolt pattern.

Heat is obviously cooking the bearing - which - judging by your troubles is already shot. So would be replaced in any event.

Man - I see only two options....
(one) continuing to apply a penetrating lube with the periodic wiggle action to the arm, vibration?, and some puller action within reason.

(two) take it to the dealer to have a new rear tire fitted.

Did read of a fellow drilling out the bearing, dropped the balls out and then managed to pull the fork.

I'd keep going with the penetrant,. and some way to vibrate the fork to move along the oil.

Hopefully - others will chime in here with something to get you moving with your tire replacement!
Good luck!
New swing arms are @$115 - so not catastrophic.
But somebody is going to have to get that fork off!
Stig

[slwelsh]

(Sean - some of us use postimages.org to host and load photos here.)

Darn - "on a boat" ? Saltwater, or ?
...
Heat is obviously cooking the bearing - which - judging by your troubles is already shot. So would be replaced in any event.

Yes, the boat lives mostly in salt water. Which is why this is a used Kymco and not, say, a Vespa on the deck. We actually have two -- the other is a Buddy 125. They're stowed on the boat deck, which is around 10' or so above the water, so they don't see any salt spray, but get plenty of salt air. I'm on my third Kymco in a decade; the first two (People 150 and another Like 200i) were both stolen, so they don't seem to last long enough to rust away.

I've got a new bearing on the way, NSK 6203DDU (seals on both sides, rather than just one). So I'm going to try even more heat, and I guess if that does not work I can pull the cage out of the race, worry the balls out, and get the fork off that way. Then I can cut the inner race off the shaft.

Thanks for your help. Further suggestions from anyone are welcome.

-Sean

[Stig / Major Tom]

Yes, I've seen some pretty rough looking scooters when we vacation along St Pete Beach and go into St Petersburg!
Stopped and inspected a LIKE200i like mine parked under a Publix near Clearwater beach once. The chrome was pretty rough! Seat torn, muffler scraped, it'd been down a time or two, poor thing. But it was still running fine... on a pair of dry-rotted Kendas!
I daydream about owning nothing but a scooter in Florida - all a man needs is a rain poncho and a way to hold my DunkinDonuts coffee!

Good luck - would love to see a photo of where your scooters live!

Stig

[slwelsh]

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Good luck - would love to see a photo of where your scooters live!

I probably should get a better shot from on deck, but it's raining ATM so you'll have to just zoom in on this one instead. In this shot the Buddy is in front of and partly obscuring the Like.

[Stig / Major Tom]

I probably should get a better shot from on deck, but it's raining ATM so you'll have to just zoom in on this one instead. In this shot the Buddy is in front of and partly obscuring the Like.

That ain't Topeka....where we at here Sean?
Florida,  Bahamas ,  Da Nang?
Nice boat, BTW!
Thanks for the photo.
STIG

[slwelsh]

That ain't Topeka....where we at here Sean?
Florida,  Bahamas ,  Da Nang?
Nice boat, BTW!

Anchored off the beach at Egg Island, near Spanish Wells in the Bahamas. Taken by another cruiser in the anchorage last month. The flat tire is from a fish hook I picked up riding around Great Harbour Cay. And, thank you. It is our only home.

[Stig / Major Tom]

Anchored off the beach at Egg Island, near Spanish Wells in the Bahamas. Taken by another cruiser in the anchorage last month. The flat tire is from a fish hook I picked up riding around Great Harbour Cay. And, thank you. It is our only home.

Nice boat!
If you need any deck hands - I just finished the Pirates of the Caribbean series - and Neil - he must be a sailor, living on an island as he does - has seen Master and Commander twice!
We'll just need to discuss paid leave and health insurance....

So, you are out of Bear, Delaware?

My daughter wanted to see the Atlantic - and Delaware was a straight shot over - so we went to Lewes, DE last summer. Took the pup. (we won't be going back to Florida until the dog expires....she doesn't now that - I hate putting her in the kennel - the dog, not the daughter)

Being along the coast - we ate Italian. (or wherever a dog could join us)


a question: How do you get the 260lb scooter off of the boat?

Stig