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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2010, 11:45:37 PM »
 Got the belt through provoscooters for about $54 shipped. Almost the same price as my local shop that screwed the last order up  ::) Had to cancel and start again.  :P  It's for a kymco 125 according to them but the same dimentions.
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2010, 11:51:35 PM »
 It's a bit more than an inch longer Would you be interested in the 2000 Rpm Don't know which I'm going with yet. Not sure i could use the smaller diamiter for any thing (whats it sposed to fit). The ncy was tight but fit in the holder
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2010, 11:55:32 PM »
..well, measuring..the malossi is closer to 1.5 inches longer than oem...

..i thing the smaller dia fits a chinese gys clutch...

..speculating...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2010, 12:25:51 AM »
 Wierd you would think they were the same. The ncy was tight but fit. Here's a pic. The one in the middle is my homemade one  :P + a cold one :D
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2010, 12:44:56 AM »
...pabst...wow...you da man art!!!
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2010, 02:59:14 AM »
  Damn! Still no parts,so did some more digging around for the true belt size. Seems the lcd4-eoa Kymco part# is the same as The bando 27.3746 Which measures 781x20x30 so it looks like i'll be ordering the malossi 6113148 That measures 795x19.8x30
  So if all goes right It should give me some more top end. In the mean time i guess my springs are on back order  ::) 
  I'll get it all back together Someday I hope.

I just measured a brand new belt (without taking it out of the plastic).
It is 813X19.9X??

Not sure where the 30 comes from, is that the angle? The height on the KYMCO belt is 10mm

So I think a 795 is going to be too short, but please report back.

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2010, 03:05:18 AM »
..the "30" is , i believe, the angle of the "teeth" on the I.D. of th' belt...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2010, 03:16:13 AM »
..the "30" is , i believe, the angle of the "teeth" on the I.D. of th' belt...


That's probably it but I don't have any way to measure that.

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2010, 03:25:04 AM »
..no, neither do i, but there is a noticeable difference between a 28 and a 30...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2010, 06:15:51 PM »
 Yes the 30 is the angle. 813x19.9x30 ? Have not seen the 813 referenced anywhere Hmm 19.9 is with in talerence could probably go from 19.5 to 20+ I have run into some odd #s with the mallosi before. 
  I'll let you know how it matches the stock one. Not the direction I want to be going in though,should be here in a couple days I hope.
 The  6112737 is the next thing close from malossi.  The 6113148 is the recomended belt for the s200 from malossi We'll see.
 
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2010, 06:33:48 PM »
Yes, the 20 is no problem. If you check the manual, the service life is probably down to 17 or so. There is some play there.
But the 813 is the length. In fact, it measured out to a clean 32 inches!
Remember, this is a proprietary belt made for KYMCO. That is why you can not reference it anyplace.
The SYM is the same way. It is like 919, also made by Bando, and guys have tried belts that were "close", no joy.

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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2010, 07:19:46 PM »
 I found some info to cross reference it but it did take a russian translation And had the #s to show how they came up with it,but thats the way it go's we'll see.
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2010, 03:25:14 AM »
 Oh ya, what a pain in the arse. My damn belt finally showed up.  The post office lost it on the 19th and after a few complaints it showed up today. This is after they confirmed it was delivered to my door  ::) (over a month to get a friken belt for this bike UUG!)
 Oh well it is not any longer than the stock one, may be a hair shorter,the other was streached a         bit   :-\  not what i hoped for but will replace a stock one fine. Did not get to do a full throttle run on it yet but seems the same as the stocker. At least i'll be able to start trying to butten this one up.
 
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2010, 02:18:49 AM »
  Well it can be done. Got the open air in, not dialed yet,lot of smog and STUFF to sort  :D But runs fine just no speed record yet.
  still think the tranny gearing is the bottleneck but has improved performance all the way through. Got to play with the cvt a bit more. I think my homemade spring has worked the best so far  ::) and need to track down a little longer belt.
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Re: Rev limiter disabled and some easy mods
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2010, 02:23:43 AM »
..i know that on a 50 4t, once you open the intake, exhaust, head and cylinder, you can upgrade the gearbox...final drive...and gain over-all performance...

..it's a torque delivery difference that allows the final drive change...

..check bearings when you upgrade...
..every mod (action) necessitates a (reaction) mod..

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