Performance/Racing Variator

[AKL_HBG]

What type of performance gain will I get if I install a performance/racing variation kit to my Super8 50x?  Top speed or acceleration gains?

[ophelia]

How much gain are you looking for?

Typically, performance variators alter the acceleration while possibly adding a smidge more top speed by playing with how engine power gets to the rear wheel. If you're already very happy with your bike, a variator upgrade may help. If you want to get into roller weight tuning, I recommend a tachometer.

However, if you need more performance I recommend looking into a bigger bike.

[AKL_HBG]

I already installed 5.5 gram roller weights.  I am very UNHAPPY with it's performance so I'm trying my best to see if I can get about 5 MPH more top end speed.  Right now according to my dealer it is fully derestricted and I only get a top end of 34 MPH (GPS) on a flat road without any wind.

I'm thinking I might have to just go with a 80cc BBK.....Thanks

[Stig / Major Tom]

We did have a LIKE 50 owner who did a bunch of mods and claimed 60+mph, until he crashed.
He was forced to stay with a 50cc scooter.

Obviously the most reliable way to obtain more speed is to buy a 110 or more, scooter. Perhaps it might even make good $$ sense in the long run?

But, you know your situation  - seems most 50 owners here have hard reasons for buying one... and then of course they want more speed from that 50.
And there are plenty of sellers who want to sell you their "racing" bits & bobs & pipes.

You should get a lot of 50cc help here. More speed is a very common theme from 50 owners.
Stig

[AKL_HBG]

Thanks Stig!

I just want to keep my 50cc and stay with my regular operators license here in PA.  That's why I don't want to have to get a MC endorsement.  Here in Harrisburg PennDOT is a pain in the rear since it is located just outside of the city and is always mobbed with people.

If I can get 5 more MPH and cruise around 40 mph is all I am trying to achieve.....Thanks again!

[ophelia]

Out of curiosity, how fast can you go downhill full throttle?

[AKL_HBG]

On a steep downhill I can hit 41 MPH (GPS) and on a steephill uphill I hit an amazing 10-15 MPH  LOL!!!  =)  The acceleration is absurd at best....

[Gnzbrg]

This may be apples and oranges, but I put a kevlar belt, a Malossi high-speed variator, and Dr. Pulley sliders in my 49cc Honda Ruckus.  Top speed went from 38 to 43 mph, it ran smoother, and acceleration improved too.

[ScooterWolf]

Maybe look into a BRC class. If you pass on a motorcycle (which they provide you get your MC endorsement, but a discount on your insurance as well. It may be easier than taking the trip to a DMV and waiting in their lines.

- Wolf

[AKL_HBG]

I have a performance variator on the way.   If this gives me 5 more mph I will be very happy.....I also found out that there might not be a BBK available for my Kymco engine.

[big blue]

You do have to remember that by riding without a motorcycle endorsement in your state that you can be ticketed if your scoot is derestricted and can go 40mph. The police don't usually bust people for this but they can!

[AKL_HBG]

Yes.  I am aware of that fact.  =)  Thanks..

[ophelia]

Yeah, I used to hit the high beam indicator on my Honda Metropolitan with a nice downhill. I figure that was 50 mph. On level ground, it was more like 46 mph. However, that was a liquid cooled machine that probably made more power than most 50 cc 4T engines, coupled to a Polini variator with a taller top ratio. I usually rode WOT, and I probably got a few cops scratching their heads at the silent stock yet cute scooter blowing by rather quickly.

I also demoed a Kymco Agility City 50 4T with the overkill 16" wheels for my friend post-derestriction for Canada because I weigh next to nothing. I got about 40 mph. I have no idea how your Super 8X 50 4T motor relates to said Agility City though or what its jetting looks like.

[AKL_HBG]

The worst thing for me is the acceleration because it's no slow it's dangerous trying to pull into traffic and across intersections.

Beause of that I was looking for a BBK for my scooter.  I was told that this engine (KG10T) is made solely by Kymco, and that there are no after market BBKs that are compatible?

Can anyone verify that this is correct??

[Stig / Major Tom]

This seems strange to me - because all scoots, even the smallest, are designed to have great acceleration for the first 100 feet or so! They all can blast away from the light in Asia! It is a given.
But you are lightweight and still are not finding that initial acceleration?
Lack of top speed is a common complaint of 50cc riders - but that off the line acceleration should always be available if the drive train is stock & healthy. ??
Stig