Author Topic: Do you need radial tires for this one?  (Read 5112 times)

Zurg1960

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 21
    • View Profile
Do you need radial tires for this one?
« on: June 15, 2018, 02:05:50 PM »
Hi! First post for a really long time!

Just bought a -14 model MyRoad with 11000 miles on it and --- it needs a new set of tires (badly)! Found out that radial tires are specified and began wondering are they really necessary (at least in Europe you can get a set of bias ply tires at a price less than one radial)?

OK it seems a little weird to complain about tire prices for as expensive toy as this but I'm quite sure that a set of Citygrips are better tires than this Maxxis crap. Silverwing runs on bias tyres and the difference on performance and weight is negligible.

Any input is welcome!

'16 TGB Bellavita
'06 Xciting 500
'14 MyRoad 700i

CROSSBOLT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7764
  • West Tennessee, USA
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 03:34:07 PM »
Welcome back! ANYTHING better than Maxxis! MJR posted on the 500 about how bad his Maxxis rear was separating the tread. Michelin, Avon, Metzler, etc. in that category should be fine for the reasons you stated.
Karl

Three motorcycles 1960-1977 (restored a 1955 BSA)
Agility 50
Yager 200i
Downtown 300i
Navy tech, Ships Engineer, pilot and aircraft mechanic

Stig / Major Tom

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14692
  • Rural Ohio
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 06:26:39 PM »
Me too, always wondered why some scoots ride on radials.
Radials certainly are the go-to tires for autos - but scooters are a different fish.

MJR, what say you?


Stig
Boston Strong
Rural Ohio

And, I'm feeling a little peculiar.

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2018, 05:30:54 AM »
Radials are better for performance bikes. Here's some reading below. Does any manufacturer make a sport bike with bias ply tires? All the performance maxi scooters use radials, Tmax, B650, MyRoad, BMW, Aprilia, Gilera, etc. Some of the Burgman 650 owners have tried various tires like bias and darksiding. I prefer to stick with the radials because I use the performance on my bikes but if you do go bias do not mix bias with radial because the way each handle differently can make the bike unstable. And if you want to stick with radials and you are in the EU I'd suggest the Dunlop Scoot Smart. I had a set shipped from the UK to me and have so far put 7,000 miles on them on one of my B650's. Keep in mind the MyRoad is a very heavy scooter at 600 lbs.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/why-things-are-bias-ply-and-radial-tires
https://www.bikebandit.com/blog/bias-ply-vs-radial-which-one-is-best-for-you

« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 05:34:58 AM by MJR »
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

Zurg1960

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 21
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2018, 09:28:38 AM »
OK folks thanks for a input!

Unfortunately it seems that tire manufacturers had made the decision easy for us, it seems that only one maker (Heidenau) is making a bias tire at a size 160/60-14 so no luck for rear end.

Have to have look for those Dunlops!
'16 TGB Bellavita
'06 Xciting 500
'14 MyRoad 700i

Stig / Major Tom

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14692
  • Rural Ohio
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2018, 11:04:42 AM »
Thanks MJR!
My Honda Forza came with Dunlop Scoot Smarts. No idea if they were the radial type. Good tire until I  punctured it, and discovered that Honda was selling a scooter with no replacement size found in the USA! Had to go oversize...which corrected the speedo😊
Stig
Boston Strong
Rural Ohio

And, I'm feeling a little peculiar.

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2018, 01:08:04 PM »
OK folks thanks for a input!

Unfortunately it seems that tire manufacturers had made the decision easy for us, it seems that only one maker (Heidenau) is making a bias tire at a size 160/60-14 so no luck for rear end.

Have to have look for those Dunlops!

Here we can get the following rear in that size in bias, not sure I'd recommend either.

Pirelli Diablo Rosso Scooter Tire
Shinko SR567/568
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

Zurg1960

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 21
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2018, 02:20:13 PM »
HMM it seems that all red devils I found from usual suspects are radial in Europe and those others are not available at all.... But thanks for input!
'16 TGB Bellavita
'06 Xciting 500
'14 MyRoad 700i

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2018, 02:12:09 AM »
Another thing to think about comes from folks in the UK. If you put tires that aren't like the factory type insurance companies apparently can deny claims over there should you get in an accident.
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

stuo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 660
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2018, 02:23:14 AM »
When squirting soapy water to find your leak, make sure you check the valve stem opening (where the air goes in) Sometimes all you need to do is tighten the valve, or replace the whole unit. You can replace it without removing the wheel or tire (see how in the Technical column, using a C clamp).
2009 GV 250

stuo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 660
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2018, 02:25:23 AM »
Oops. I answered the wrong question. i thought you were asking about a leaking tire. Don't mind me, I'm losing it...
2009 GV 250

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2018, 03:48:26 AM »
Don't mind me, I'm losing it...

Too late. :-)
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

Zurg1960

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 21
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2018, 06:22:06 PM »
So decided to bite the bullet and ordered Metzeler radial for rear wheel and bias for front wheel. Both are FeelFrees so lets see how she goes afterwards!
'16 TGB Bellavita
'06 Xciting 500
'14 MyRoad 700i

Stig / Major Tom

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14692
  • Rural Ohio
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2018, 12:32:28 AM »
So decided to bite the bullet and ordered Metzeler radial for rear wheel and bias for front wheel. Both are FeelFrees so lets see how she goes afterwards!
Mixing a radial with a bias on a 600lb MyRoad 700cc scoot?
Stig
Boston Strong
Rural Ohio

And, I'm feeling a little peculiar.

MJR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1141
    • View Profile
Re: Do you need radial tires for this one?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2018, 04:44:34 AM »
Mixing a radial with a bias on a 600lb MyRoad 700cc scoot?

Yah I wouldn't do that but I haven't ever tried.



Good video explaining the difference.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 05:08:41 AM by MJR »
'03 Clipper Yellow Honda Reflex
'03 Coast Cyan Atlantic 500
'14 White MyRoad 700i
'09 Mirage White Burgman 650
'06 Oort Gray Burgman 650 project
'05 Sonic Silver Burgman 650 project
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650, rebuilt/upgraded CVT w/Polish adapter
'03 Space Blue Burgman 650 parts bike

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function split()