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Islandboyil

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Help with no spark
« on: July 26, 2018, 01:02:41 AM »
I have a 01 People 50 2 stroke with no spark. I have changed stater, coil and cdi and kill switch. Fuses are good and there is continuity in every wire I check. Anyone know what I am missing? I want to get this up and running...

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2018, 06:13:20 PM »
Check the coil with an ohm meter and tel us what you found. Primary and secondary.
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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2018, 05:34:09 PM »
.8 ohms primary nothing on secondary

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2018, 06:53:23 PM »
Whoa, there! Did you change scales on your multimeter for measuring the secondary? I realize how this question sounds but it is crucial for determining what the problem is.
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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2018, 07:21:33 PM »
What do I set it on to check secondary? Also when I check continuity on the piece that connects to the plug there is none. Is this right? Sorry electrical problems baffles me

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2018, 07:49:00 PM »
Just set meter to 20k got a reading of 2.54 to the wire nothing to the plug cap

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2018, 08:52:05 PM »
Regardless of the secondary, no continuity to plug cap from terminal on secondary is not good. That should read near zero on the lowest scale because it is usually a metal wire. On the 20k scale reading 2.54 should be about right. The way to get better electrically is to do what yer doin': asking questions and experimenting, that is trying to find what works and what does not. Wish I could draw a picture on here!

The spark coil primary is fairly heavy wire with a few turns = low resistance = low scale on meter for resistance. Secondary is very fine wire with lotsa turns = high resistance = high resistance scale on meter. No connection electrically to each other. One end of secondary is grounded, other end is plug wire and cap.

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2018, 09:23:00 PM »
Thanks. I guess my next step is to stop Monday and try to get a plug cap. I might try auto zone to see if they have something that would work. Will let you know

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2018, 07:29:59 PM »
8.59 ohms is what I get for the secondary without rubber boot

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 07:52:56 PM »
I am getting .4 volts ac to the cdi. I have a dc fired cdi is that correct?

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2018, 10:08:09 PM »
I don't know if it is ac or dc. But I do recognize your information is confusing. Back to basics: primary ohms? Secondary ohms?
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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2018, 11:33:01 PM »
.8 primary 8.59 secondary no plug boot

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 12:18:18 PM »
 Still sounds like the coil is good.

Let's back up a bit. How do you know you have no spark?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2018, 12:41:02 PM by CROSSBOLT »
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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 06:56:26 PM »
I put a new plug in and ground it to bare metal

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Re: Help with no spark
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2018, 07:10:26 PM »
OK, that's what I had hoped to hear. I read where you replaced nearly everything related to spark. Were all these parts replaced because the engine quit/would not start?
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