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Front wheel only ABS?
« on: September 16, 2018, 09:34:25 PM »


Not my concern if you don't want ABS....but if you've wondered, "Might front-wheel-only ABS help?"
If something attacks my line of travel - it will most likely happen when I'm riding straight ahead.

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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 10:00:26 PM »
Probably better than nothing...since the front wheel is usually the problem child.
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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 10:12:15 PM »
If you are only going to have ABS on one wheel then the front wheel is the place for it to be.  First, the front wheel does the majority of the braking.  Second, a rear wheel skid is much easier to control than a front wheel skid.  In some circumstances front wheel only ABS actually works better than 2 wheel ABS. 

There are a few motorcycles out there with ABS designed for off road.  It works on the front wheel only.  I wouldn't have any issue with buying a scooter with front wheel only ABS.
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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 11:11:53 PM »
I think most dry surface, straight line, bike offs are the result of locked rear tires. Excited over-braking and down goes the bike...." had to lay her down!"
I'm always careful about the rear brake in a hard stop.
Pretty darn hard to lock a front tire on a dry road in a straight line.
ABS is there to help me in a wet very, very hard stop.
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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 02:20:25 PM »
My understanding is that it really doesn't matter if the rear wheel locks up, as long as you remember to not release it -- then you risk high siding.

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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 04:31:20 PM »
My understanding is that it really doesn't matter if the rear wheel locks up, as long as you remember to not release it -- then you risk high siding.

That is what they used to teach at the MSF courses.  They would have you lock up the rear tire and come to a stop without releasing the rear brake.  They don't do that any more.  Like a lot of the stuff the MSF taught, it really wasn't true.  If you lock up the rear brake and release it while still going straight, it's not a problem.  If you're rear has started to slide out to the side and you release it you may high side.  If your rear tire has started to slide out to the side and you do nothing you will likely low side.

The best way to understand braking is to spend some time riding in the dirt and practice sliding your rear tire.  That and reading up on the dynamics of braking.  There is NO Substitute for understanding how braking works and practicing.  ABS will save you some of the time but it is also not a substitute for knowing how to ride your bike.

BTW, there are a lot of "facts" about braking that are floating around out there that people just accept as true since they have heard it so many times.  Many of these "facts" are not true.

Some common myths:

-Don't use the front brake hard you will go over the handlebars.
-Don't brake in a curve, you will run wide and off the road.
-Braking is 70% front brake and 30%rear.
-I had to lay her down to avoid the crash ::)

Also, ABS is not magic, it won't create traction where there isn't any.  ABS is most effective if used by someone who understands what it will and will not do.

« Last Edit: September 18, 2018, 04:36:02 PM by klaviator »
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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 08:16:03 PM »
Not 70/30 front/rear? What is it?
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Re: Front wheel only ABS?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2018, 11:02:49 AM »
Not 70/30 front/rear? What is it?

Every bike is different and the percentage will also change depending on how the bike is loaded and the road conditions. 
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