Help! Won't start!

[zevsdad]

My Kymco 300i 2012 will NOT START! It chug chug chugs- but will not turn over. I took the battery into the local auto parts store and they charged it and kept it plugged in over night to verify that it keeps a charge.
I do see an engine light with the following blink pattern:

3 long blinks
3 short blinks

Also, I noticed that the reduction oil is ever so slightly leaking out of the release screw. I had an issue previously where the threading was stripped- so I used a thread-it tool with the spring, a crunch washer and thought it was fixed- but there is a tiny bead of reduction oil leaking .....not sure if thats related to the starting issue though

[Tromper]

I found a reference to some CELP codes in the manual that may apply & a link to some DT300I codes in an earlier forum that may apply. 
Not sure how those relate to blinks but something to look at.


The link is http://www.kymcoforum.com/index.php?topic=23826.0  I'd

The Injector CELP codes are in the manual in Section 13 (Fuel Injection).

To me this sounds like code 33, but I could be wrong since I'm not actually seeing the lights.

EFI SELF-DIAGNOSIS CHECK ENGINE LAMP (CELP) FAILURE CODES
The “CELP” denotes the failure codes.  When the indicator lights for one second that is equal to ten.

For example: one longer blink illumination and two shorter blinks (0.5 second x 2) of the indicator is equal to 12 blinks.
Follow code 12.

If more than a damaged part has occurred, the “CELP” begins blinking in order.
For example: If the indicator blinks six times,then shows one second illumination and two blinks, so there are two failures have occurred.
Follow code 6 and 12.

Blink 33 is
Code          Contents                              Causes                                                                    Symptom
P0201          Faulty Injector (Nozzle)       â— Faulty Fuel injector Ω range (9.945~13.5Ω)         Engine fail to be operated
                                                                ● Loose or poor connection on injector
                                                                ● Open or short circuit on injector wire
                                                                ● Faulty fuel injector

[zevsdad]

Thanks for that info- I will look into possible fuel injection issue- sounds plausible.... also sounds a little daunting to fix- may have to break down and take her into a professional. yikes hate to think what that's gonna cost

[CROSSBOLT]

Depends on the "professional." What does it mean that it "chug, chug, chugs but won't turn over?"

[agilebda]

Are you able to upload a YouTube video and send us the link?
Probably a good idea to hear the Chug Chug or crank crank.

[Trucker jay]

If it's the original battery I would go ahead and put a new one in it.  Weak battery can cause some strange problems.

[zevsdad]

Hello,
I will take a video and post the link here shortly.

- the battery is not the original - its one I bought at the local auto parts store in 2016

[zevsdad]

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0i5ejO17WH9j4

Please see the video here


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[CROSSBOLT]

Android tablet unable to play....

[Texxan]

Code 33 ....injector
I would try unplugging it and plugging back in.
Ohm the injector unplugged (check resistance of injector  9.9 to 13.5 ohms )
Check for pulse while cranking plugged in with led test light or scope)
Unforunately you have to buy the whole throttle body to get a new injector...from what I see.

You can try removing the air filter and spraying carb clean down the intake while cranking...see if it fires
Flooding out is easy if you don't watch to not spray too much
The service manual is on  manualslib.com

[zevsdad]

I took it into the shop-- they said it needed a new fuel pump and also spark plug.  I just got it back and it starts right up BUT.....
The check engine light remains illuminated the whole time

I disconnected the battery and retested - same thing

I turned on the run switch but did not start the engine- and I see that the CLEP is blinking the same original error code ( 3 long 3 short) and shows 00:33 on the display

here is a video:




Is this just the old code and the guys in the shop were too bone headed to reset it? Or is there still an issue and I should have them come back and pick it up for more work?

[Stig / Major Tom]

Yes, fixed, but code now must be cleared.
Does your owner's manual give instructions for clearing?
Open throttle fully, turn key on, release throttle after CELP light comes on ---- let the codes cycle through 5 times. See if that has cleared codes when restarted.
Glad they, you, got it fixed!
Stig

[zevsdad]

I do not see any instructions for clearing. I did try unplugging the battery for 60 seconds- that did not do anything. I alos tried:

Open throttle fully, turn key on, release throttle after CELP light comes on ---- let the codes cycle through 5 times.

and that did not change anything either....

[zevsdad]

also- the battery light remains on the whole time

[zevsdad]

also- they charged me 400 bucks...