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Starter Relay Solenoid
« on: March 28, 2019, 11:20:25 PM »
Went to start the the scoot and could get nothing but clicks from the starter solenoid,after multiple attempts it cranked and started. This went on for a couple of days till it finally wouldnt crank.Ordered a new solenoid,replaced it and same problem existed but with the seat bucket removed I  saw an arc and found a loose ground cable (starter or frame ground?)
Replaced bolt and all is good,found a plug and play replacement solenoid replacement for the Like 200i from Amazon for $6.48 and it arrived in two days. Here's the part number if you're ever in a bind and need one quick.
Manufacturer MMA
Part#  FBA_MGEN4114

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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2019, 11:23:14 PM »
So it turned out to me just a loose bolt?


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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2019, 11:26:10 PM »
Yep,wouldnt have found it so fast if the cable hadnt arced when i hit the starter switch.

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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2019, 11:28:36 PM »
Well at least you didn’t spend much on the part!   I’m glad you found the issue and it was an easy one at that.   Great!   


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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2019, 11:31:58 PM »
The bolt was completely missing with the ground cable hust hanging loose,took a couple of minutes but fiund where it went

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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 11:39:23 PM »
The bolt was completely missing with the ground cable hust hanging loose,took a couple of minutes but fiund where it went
A few yrs ago we had a LIKE200i owner find his ground cable loose as well.
Usually factory shot nuts, bolts and screws are crazy tight.
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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 10:30:48 AM »
A few yrs ago we had a LIKE200i owner find his ground cable loose as well.
Usually factory shot nuts, bolts and screws are crazy tight.
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Yes , that was probably me. It happened during the break in period within the first two weeks of ownership in July 2014 if I remember correctly. Took the scooter for a longer ride outside of town and stopped at a gas station. Afterwards the scooter wouldn´t start again, just clicking noise from solenoid.
At first I got upset and angry because I trhought that I needed to be towed, but then shortly after I calmed down again and started to inspect the scooter around the starter and found that loose hanging ground cable from the starter. Bolt got loose and lost enroute. I just made contact manually to restart and got the bolt replaced and fixed with screwlock by the dealer the next days. Since then never had an issue again, except this more or less regularily grunting noise and hesitation at first start when engine is cold. But I am living with it now since 2014 and.

Solenoids mostly only do go bad when used with weak batteries over a period of time (because of sizzle).
That´s why I use the better, stronger and lighter LiFePo Battery. Mine has been in there now for 4 years without any problems and absolutely no maintanance needed. Starts even great after 3 month of winterbreak period.
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Re: Starter Relay Solenoid
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2019, 05:21:53 PM »
Yes , that was probably me. It happened during the break in period within the first two weeks of ownership in July 2014 if I remember correctly. Took the scooter for a longer ride outside of town and stopped at a gas station. Afterwards the scooter wouldn´t start again, just clicking noise from solenoid.
At first I got upset and angry because I trhought that I needed to be towed, but then shortly after I calmed down again and started to inspect the scooter around the starter and found that loose hanging ground cable from the starter. Bolt got loose and lost enroute. I just made contact manually to restart and got the bolt replaced and fixed with screwlock by the dealer the next days. Since then never had an issue again, except this more or less regularily grunting noise and hesitation at first start when engine is cold. But I am living with it now since 2014 and.

Solenoids mostly only do go bad when used with weak batteries over a period of time (because of sizzle).
That´s why I use the better, stronger and lighter LiFePo Battery. Mine has been in there now for 4 years without any problems and absolutely no maintanance needed. Starts even great after 3 month of winterbreak period.

Yes, a lot of folks report that "grunt" at starting. Some of us think it is because the engine is on the power stroke.....others are certain it is a government plot.
I won't comment.
(while I've found many of the fasteners to be quite snug coming from the Kymco factory....they pale in comparison to the turbo-wrenches the Piaggio boys are employing!
Here is a pic from the Piaggio manual showing Hercules using a hand tool to remove the passenger foot rest bolts. Oh, how easy in this manual!
In reality, one must nearly flip the scooter over on its back, in order to remove this smallish screw. An impact gun or hammer driver works best - with two men and a dog bracing the scooter from the off-side!


Anyway, glad the Texan found his fix! These 1st gen. LIKE's are pretty bullet-proof scoots by now.

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