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JARIK

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Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« on: April 23, 2019, 10:02:42 PM »
So basicly i was riding to school i rode abot a mile or two and then suddenly out of nowhere i lost power and the engine shut off. Pushed the scooter home and after a while found out it doesnt have spark and the spark problem isnt with the spark plug i tested that. So any suggestions why would it suddenly lose spark?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 11:55:16 PM »
Run-stop switch in stop position?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2019, 05:02:46 AM »
Doesnt have a run stop switch
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2019, 11:28:32 AM »
Please tell us more about your scooter:
Year, miles, previous issues, recent servicing, aftermarket parts?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 03:28:24 PM »
Quote from: JARIK on April 23, 2019, 10:02:42 PM
the spark problem isnt with the spark plug i tested that
Deficient spark plug cap or loose ignition coil connection?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2019, 03:46:42 PM »
Its a 2009 model if im not wrong. It has 2153 miles. No previous issues. No aftermarket parts. And the most recent service was at about 1k miles i did an oil change and i cleaned the carb because the scooter was left untouched for a while but it ran great everything was ok and then the spark issue happened.
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2019, 04:56:36 PM »
Guys i found the problem. The ignition coil is broken
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2019, 05:50:05 PM »
Quote from: JARIK on April 24, 2019, 04:56:36 PM
ignition coil is broken
Additional context may be helpful to others researching.

Was the deficient ignition coil Ohms tested?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2019, 05:44:20 AM »
Yes i tested it and no reading.
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2019, 04:16:25 PM »
Ok so UPDATE: there is a problem i think that it wasnt only the ignition coil that died or the tester just doesnt work right
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2019, 04:52:10 PM »
Yes, I am not surprised. I started with a 2009 Kymco Agility 50 and it had a run-stop switch on the right handlebar. A bright red one. Same side as the starter button. I can see all kinds of situations where this may be missing. But if it is missing there should be, or could be a substitute start button. So what I am saying is I have a lot of questions to ask just to try to understand what your situation is, the "tester" you are using and how you are using it. So if you can be a little more detailed in your descriptions maybe someone could help you find the problem.
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2019, 10:55:56 PM »
Quote from: JARIK on April 25, 2019, 05:44:20 AM
Yes i tested it and no reading.
No reading? or zero resistance?
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2019, 09:31:22 AM »
The tester is a multimeter. Its just called a tester where i live and thats why i wrote tester. And there was no reading at all with the old and the new ignition coil. And i was testing it by the video tutorial on youtube.
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2019, 12:39:28 PM »
Jarik,  Since both the old and the new coils tested the same ("no reading at all"), I would suspect the tester itself or maybe incorrect operation of the tester.  I suggest testing another type of electrical component to make sure you understand how to get a reading with a multimeter.  Then let us know what you found.
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Re: Problem (stalled, wont start because doesnt have spark)
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2019, 07:11:23 PM »
Ok so guys i got the tester working and i tested everything from this video https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPnzsuRAV-Ro&ved=2ahUKEwiVnbXDgPbhAhWSwcQBHROsAM0QwqsBMAN6BAgFEA8&usg=AOvVaw2KYk7Sgi3raTX-CNb8if7z
And everything seems to be ok but still no spark. Any sugestions?
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